UK Border Control - 1st June 15

[billkce]

Hi All,

Just heard another campsite rumour that from 1 June, British Border Control will be checking to see whether you have been out of the UK for more than 90 consecutive days.

If you have, the suggestion is that there will be draconian consequences re benefits like access to the NHS.

Can anyone confirm...True or False.

 

[cydersyd]

As far as I understand if you are out of this country for more than 90 days your doctors practice. Has the right to drop you from his list. I have not heard of anyone being affected by this ruling, indeed my doctor issues my prescriptions for three e months in advance in the full knowledge that I will be out of the country for that period of time.

 

[Wildman]

what would they do stamp your passport? not strictly needed in Europe how would they check. Could put a stop to those wintering abroad and increase the load on the NHS as a result

 

[Wickolad]

This may have some bearing on the rumour....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-190218/Ex-pat-pensioners-denied-NHS-treatment.html

 

[gus-lopez]

This may have some bearing on the rumour....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-190218/Ex-pat-pensioners-denied-NHS-treatment.html

Don't know how old it is but it is nonsense as oap's registered as resident in other EU states have health entitlement in that country. Additionally their EHIC card is supplied now by the UK. This is a better arrangement than before where the Spanish supplied it, then if it was used in another EU state the bill was then sent to Spain, who sent it to the UK. & the cost just increased.
Anyway, that entitles them to healthcare in all other EU states INCLUDING the UK on production of said EHIC.
None of the above would apply to UK oap's using a normal UK supplied EHIC & they could have a problem if out over 90 days.

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[Voyger1010]

If it's Daily Mail article it's only their opinion or interpretation of some hearsay gossip and have probably got hold of the wrong end of the stick. (or hacked a phone)
Never believe anything the press says, they just sensationalise, in order to sell newspapers. Can you imagine the uproar there would be, if they tried to introduce such a measure , especially when they are letting in all and sundry, who get everything given to them on a plate on arrival, including free health care.

 

[maxine and jo]

The 180 day rule ; if you live, work or draw a pension you are obliged to register as a resident of that country
this however has no bearing on your tax status . For anyone who is claiming dhs benefits the 28 day rule applies
that you must not be out of the uk for more than 28 consecutive day or you will lose your benefits ,as for medical
treatment here in spain if you register and sign on the local padron a SIP card is given to you and all of your treatment is free, so there would be no need to return to uk , the changes which are to be applied are to stop benefit cheats

 

[gus-lopez]

Can you imagine the uproar there would be, if they tried to introduce such a measure , especially when they are letting in all and sundry, who get everything given to them on a plate on arrival, including free health care.

They don't need to introduce it as it as existed since I was young & long before the EU . The requirement is that you tell them .Just like you are meant to tell the if in hospital over a certain amount of time so they can reduce your pension or any benefits ,etc.
Last year the Spanish introduced;
" any Spanish national who leaves the country for 30 consecutive days loses the right to healthcare & must re-establish their right on return " This would also apply to any registered resident foreign national.( It would also apply to any pensioner holidaying for over that period ! )
As "maxine and jo said with the UK 180 day rule you were always legally required to notify them that you were out over that period of time. They are just reducing it to what most other countries already use.

 

[Funnymunny]

Perhaps they are trying to ban British born people from re entering the uk if they have been abroad for 91 days or more to make more room for illegals. Ok I will get my coat now

 

[Voyger1010]

Perhaps they are trying to ban British born people from re entering the uk if they have been abroad for 91 days or more to make more room for illegals. Ok I will get my coat now

I'll get my coat as well, perhaps the British isles will eventually sink, that should solve the migration problem.

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[PeteH]

BE AWARE. If you are out of the UK for more that 28 days. AND receive Benefit. YOU MUST inform the DHSS. This applies to almost any benefit except the pension.

NOW The RANT!!. WHY is the Pension I paid into for 50+ years a Benefit??????. I`v Bought the bugger umpteen times over with the tax I paid s ITS! NOT.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pete

 

[Fenman]

what would they do stamp your passport? not strictly needed in Europe how would they check. Could put a stop to those wintering abroad and increase the load on the NHS as a result

They can now check very easily as we have all had to give API and they can simply scan all passports as we go through customs on the way out.
Maybe that's what it is all about. We have all said why check those going out. Could this be why.

 

[maxine and jo]

BE AWARE. If you are out of the UK for more that 28 days. AND receive Benefit. YOU MUST inform the DHSS. This applies to almost any benefit except the pension.

NOW The RANT!!. WHY is the Pension I paid into for 50+ years a Benefit??????. I`v Bought the bugger umpteen times over with the tax I paid s ITS! NOT.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pete

Hi pete pension are as you say not a benefit and you would not need to inform the dhss but if you receive any top ups these are benefits

 

[Bobby22]

Does it also mean that if your are out the country for more than 180 days you don't have to income tax......"could be a can of worms.

 

[wanderer]

So if they check my passport in/out how does that miserable ratbag in the doctors surgery know where i,ve been when i want an appointment. Also how does the border control know which doctors surgery i attend. Some of the scaremongering on here beggers belief

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[maxine and jo]

So if they check my passport in/out how does that miserable ratbag in the doctors surgery know where i,ve been when i want an appointment. Also how does the border control know which doctors surgery i attend. Some of the scaremongering on here beggers belief

Hi when you buy a crossing ticket you give your passport no .so software that was developed to catch terrorist has been found useful to keep tabs on those people who take hand outs and p..s it up the wall in spain !!