Tyres, interesting info

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I am about to purchase a new tyre to fit onto my spare wheel, so wrote to Continental for answers to a couple of questions, see below.

I have a 3.5T motorhome on 215/75/R16 Continental Vanco2 tyres. I am looking to buy another tyre same as above, to use as a spare fitted to a rim and correctly inflated, but could you answer these questions please;
1, the tyres normally are inflated to around 4 Bar, what sort of valve should I ask to be fitted for this sort of pressure ?
2, someone suggested getting the rim powder coated before fitting the tyre, is this a good or bad thing to do as regards leakage etc ?
3, I have been advised that all tyres should be changed around the 5 year old mark, irregardless of wear, due to UV exposure. If my spare tyre was never exposed to sunlight, ie never used, would this advice still apply ?



Answer from Continental;

Good afternoon,

Thank you for getting in contact.

The correct valves will usually be recommended by the vehicle manufacturer. Regardless of what pressure you run them at they must meet the requirements for the maximum given load and in most cases camper applications need high pressure type valves. I have attached a image highlighting the valves and the applications they are usually required.


If the tyres rims are not in a good condition, either rust or oxidisation then in some cases this can allow air to escape faster, due to the bead of the tyre not fully sealing on the rim. Powder coating can improve the seal between the tyre and rim but naturally air does escape over time.


There is no legal UK law stating you must remove a tyre due to its age however, we recommend any tyre older than ten years be removed from service not just due to the UV exposure but the natural ageing process which occurs. You may also find that insurance companies and coach builders recommend removal at the 5 year mark due to the application of motorhomes, which often have high uneven loads and are static for prolonged periods. This can exacerbate the ageing process in some cases.
 

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More info;

Our MH is on Continental Vanco2 tyres. I have been told by Continental that this tyre is no longer made, so I will have to buy a Continental VancoCamper. Which is fine, but if I have a puncture in France and use the VancoCamper spare to replace it then I am breaking their law. So while carrying the spare in France it's still finger crossing time, for a couple more years at least until the existing Vanco2s get replaces with VancoCampers.

Nothing is simple is it ?
 
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That's an interesting statement , Geordies . I'm at a loss with this one , would you care to enlighten , at least me mate .


It's been mentioned on here before that you must have matching tyres on each axle apparently. I'm sure someone got recovered and they wouldn't let them continue until they bought 2 matching tyres as they couldn't source the same make as the existing one and the punctured one was beyond repair..
 

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More info;

Our MH is on Continental Vanco2 tyres. I have been told by Continental that this tyre is no longer made, so I will have to buy a Continental VancoCamper. Which is fine, but if I have a puncture in France and use the VancoCamper spare to replace it then I am breaking their law. So while carrying the spare in France it's still finger crossing time, for a couple more years at least until the existing Vanco2s get replaces with VancoCampers.

Nothing is simple is it ?
Vanco2 is still on Continentals web site.

https://www.continental-tyres.co.uk/car/tyres/van/summer-van/vanco2

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It's been mentioned on here before that you must have matching tyres on each axle apparently. I'm sure someone got recovered and they wouldn't let them continue until they bought 2 matching tyres as they couldn't source the same make as the existing one and the punctured one was beyond repair..

Jeeze , really i didn't know that , thank's , Jock .

Probably best i don't take the van over there , they'd have a field day . Got a different tyre on each wheel , is this something new .
 
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Matching tyres gets more of a problem for me, as my rear tyres were replaced using tyres with a heavier load tolerance. I have slung the sticky stuff as I carry a front spare.
Surely if I have a rear puncture and I drive slowly as with the old emergency tyres, using the same size/make front spare, to the nearest tyre depot, I should be not only be safe but legal in an emergency, or would hell fall around my ears?
 

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Tyres should normally be the same type and make on each axle, which is only common sense, but I have never been able to find official legislation that says it is illegal not to have them exactly the same in France. The French CT requires that you have all 5 ( or 7 with a tag axle) tyres of the same make (unless the spare is a space saver) or tyres on the same axle must match, or the tyres on the same axle don’t need to match, or both tyres on each axle must be replaced if a new one is required, or whatever the person talking to you thinks at the time.
I have not read anything definitive that states foreign registered cars need to comply with French tyre regulations.
Except where snow is concerned.
But, of course, I am keen to see official documentation that will confirm or deny this.

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It's been mentioned on here before that you must have matching tyres on each axle apparently. I'm sure someone got recovered and they wouldn't let them continue until they bought 2 matching tyres as they couldn't source the same make as the existing one and the punctured one was beyond repair..
I'm sure, but unverified, that will only apply to a French nationals vehicle and is their law, but not a visiting holiday makers.
If you tow a trailer and need recovery would they refuse to tow the trailer because the fog light is on the wrong side or in the case of a single fog light on your van will police stop and prosecute for the same 'offense'.
I doubt it as they must realise the UK has different rules and laws.
 
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Really don't understand the 'concern' about MH tyres............same base commercial vehicles drive harder, longer on 'non-special' tyres, probably every tyre different and different brands/ages

Always bought 'budget' tyres.............no problems
 
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fog light is on the wrong side

Easy way outta that hole , Pop's . Set up like i've got fitted , one each side .

the van over there ,

Oh , and that's the baby van too , not the motorhome , car's not much better . I alway's had problem's , getting hold of the same tyre's as those fitted . i've recently started using tyres on the drive , and since managed to get three the same on the car .
 

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Really don't understand the 'concern' about MH tyres............same base commercial vehicles drive harder, longer on 'non-special' tyres, probably every tyre different and different brands/ages

Always bought 'budget' tyres.............no problems
But commercial vehicles are usually driven every day and some for quite a distance whereas a MH will stand still for a lot longer and are often at full load constantly so the weight on the tyres can be more 'severe' as well as concentrated in one place due to them not moving, this is why some MH tyres have stronger side walls to compensate for this 'standing still'.
 
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