TOYOTA 'Toads'....The Yaris will not follow !? (1 Viewer)

davidallan

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Just changing from a SMART Toad to the YARIS...
Its the 1.4.D Auto /Man Gearbox and a PUSH buton starter Keyless entry system.

Now I know this type of gearbox is ok [ IN 'n' POSITION] but on the trial run the FRONT wheels were NOT turning as we went R & L...[some noise also]

Apparently is does have a steering lock which is 'disengaged' when the ignition is on.....
THIS IS NOT IDEAL...

Also we know that the AYGO & IQ are made to TOW without problems.

I know that there will be some answers/advice out there in MHF land...I have asked a couple of the Dealers BUT their silence speaks volumes & NO return tele calls .:Sad:

Any help would be super...

WHY change???? Retirement present [ a PUP Terrier / Rescue] Needs to be in the back of the vehicle....
 
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We have a Peugeot 107 5 door manual which is the same chassis / engine combination as the Toyota Aygo. Its a very good toad with room for 4 and shopping or two and a dog :thumb: I do not believe the auto version is towable as toad
 
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The auto 107/Aygo/C1 is towable - we have one.

Rog

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Have to ask, which smart do you have, our dog 8 year old cross staffi jumps in to the back of our 4 2 and is quite happy.
 

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Geo

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Just changing from a SMART Toad to the YARIS...
Its the 1.4.D Auto /Man Gearbox and a PUSH buton starter Keyless entry system.

Now I know this type of gearbox is ok [ IN 'n' POSITION] but on the trial run the FRONT wheels were NOT turning as we went R & L...[some noise also]

Apparently is does have a steering lock which is 'disengaged' when the ignition is on.....
THIS IS NOT IDEAL...


Also we know that the AYGO & IQ are made to TOW without problems.

I know that there will be some answers/advice out there in MHF land...I have asked a couple of the Dealers BUT their silence speaks volumes & NO return tele calls .:Sad:

Any help would be super...

WHY change???? Retirement present [ a PUP Terrier / Rescue] Needs to be in the back of the vehicle....
This ex[lains why yer wheels wont turn then:Doh:
Easy option is get auto sparks to supply a feed to the auto lock when key is in accsesory position rather than ignition on position:thumb:
I say feed, it may be earth triggered, your sparky will sort that out
 
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The auto 107/Aygo/C1 is towable - we have one.

Rog

Our 107 handbook says that it should not be towed , not clear whether it refers to the manual, auto or both. We have not had any problems with ours.

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Our 107 handbook says that it should not be towed , not clear whether it refers to the manual, auto or both. We have not had any problems with ours.

Interesting. I never actually checked - I simply went on the advice of Towbars2Towcars.

What I do know is that these cars, if auto, use a tiptronic type box. It's actually a manual car with a clever little monkey hidden in the electronics that changes the gears for us.

I think Toyota may say it's safe to tow (and the car is basically a Toyota with a 107 badge).

Anyway, we've towed ours for several hundred miles without problem. We're towing it to some skiing late December.

Rog
 

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Just changing from a SMART Toad to the YARIS...
Its the 1.4.D Auto /Man Gearbox and a PUSH buton starter Keyless entry system.

Easy option is get auto sparks to supply a feed to the auto lock when key is in accsesory position rather than ignition on position:thumb:

If I read correctly he will have to fit an ignition switch first
 
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Interesting. I never actually checked - I simply went on the advice of Towbars2Towcars.

What I do know is that these cars, if auto, use a tiptronic type box. It's actually a manual car with a clever little monkey hidden in the electronics that changes the gears for us.

I think Toyota may say it's safe to tow (and the car is basically a Toyota with a 107 badge).

Anyway, we've towed ours for several hundred miles without problem. We're towing it to some skiing late December.

Rog

Hi I didn't notice what the handbook said until after I had the A frame fitted. I assumed that as car a tow and others produced an a frame that it was ok.
As with you have had no problems

Larry

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If I read correctly he will have to fit an ignition switch first
Its called a key card Jim:thumb:
and im sure there will be provision to rig up a 12vposs or earth switched supply to disable the electric steering lock:thumb:
If not then he can't tow it, seemples:Doh:
 

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Hi,

I tow a Toyota Yaris 1.0l but it is manual. I also have had Towbars2towcars fit my a-frame and tow bar. When making a sharp right or left turn it is possible to see in the m/h's wing mirrors that the front wheels of the toad turn in the appropriate direction, this avoids the otherwise inevitable front tyre scrubbing off.

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davidallan

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changing from SMARTY..

Have to ask, which smart do you have, our dog 8 year old cross staffi jumps in to the back of our 4 2 and is quite happy.

Good point...plenty of room in the Boot area BUT ours is taken up with a 3 Wheel Mobillity Buggy + Batteries...........Otherwise we would never think of changing.:roflmto:
 

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Just checked with the recovery manual, and a Yaris Auto cannot be flat towed, but a manual can.

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davidallan

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...naughty 'TOAD'.......the Final word !!?

::bigsmile: Thanks for all the input Funsters......

Problem solved. Yes its quite happy being towed now.

Checked with a couple of Auto electricians + Handbook AGAIN.

Its all to do with this fancy START button keyless ignition system....on my AUTO yaris..
[All singing & dancing version '56 plate]

SO you have finished with the car and press the Start button..= Engine stop + all systems OFF. Leave the vehicle and walk away.

Thats the trigger...The door opening/shutting and so the steering lock will now be ON.

WITH A FRAME ON AND BEHIND THE M/H......GEAR IN 'N' + HANDBRAKE OFF.

LEAVE THE CAR then PRESS THE START/STOP BUTTON.....an ORANGE light in the button WILL APPEAR............[ This is the ACC' position]
[**DO NOT USE REMOTE to LOCK THE CAR....[if you wish to lock the vehicle then take out the hidden key from the remote & manually lock it. **]

THIS APPARENTLY INHIBITS THE 'Steering lock' system......AS THE " meercats" say
SeeeMPLE....

I hope this HELPS somebody out there with an AUTO/ stop/start button:Smile::thumb:
 

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