Towtal A frame towing

[GeorgeTelford]

Noticed on the Towtal site that they have a section for questions, I have emailed and asked them how A frames and Brake buddies are legal, I wonder if they will reply?

 

[Xoxoc]

I hope so, it could be most enlightening...

 

[GeorgeTelford]

Does anyone think their lack of a reply signifies that they cannot support their claims that Aframes are legal?

 

[GJH]

Does anyone think their lack of a reply signifies that they cannot support their claims that Aframes are legal?

Maybe they've been talking to VOSA George and decided they don't want to reply

Graham

 

[GeorgeTelford]

Vosa would be the wrong dept, for Construction and use they need to speak to construction and use dept Marsham, according to the legislation these are the arbiters of construction and use for UK vehicles (C&U incidently have confirmed that A frames are ilegal)

 

[GJH]

Vosa would be the wrong dept, for Construction and use they need to speak to construction and use dept Marsham, according to the legislation these are the arbiters of construction and use for UK vehicles (C&U incidently have confirmed that A frames are ilegal)

Sorry George, didn't make myself clear. I was referring to the fact that VOSA had not replied to your query re CT (different thread).

Graham

 

[Enodreven]

Deleted and moved to a Thread of its own

"How to Make "A" Frames Better"

 

[Geo]

The answer is quite simple Brian, I agree no one (to my knowledge) is saying they are dangerous, it is the outdated laws of the Uk that need changing not the unit itself

 

[Enodreven]

Hi, Geo

Thanks for the reply, I think I will start a new thread on the subject of How to Make "A" frames Better

Brian

 

[GeorgeTelford]

Hi Geo, Brian

The UK laws are not outdated and they match the latest EU directives too.

 

[johnsandywhite]

Hi Geo, Brian

The UK laws are not outdated and they match the latest EU directives too.

Not meaning to be a dispoiler on this thread? But who says that the EU isn't out of date too? :thumb:

 

[Phoenix]

If the cap fits:
"You're entitled to your own wrong opinion"

 

[davidallan]

A Frames cont,d......

I 've also just been looking at the Towtal web pages with a pending trip to the EU imminent.

Last time I visted them in 2008 I managed to find a potentially very helpfull section where the were 2 pages of info more or less saying that they are OK in the UK so with respect
Mr. EU policeman please read the following.....[Interpreted in 5 languages] so that you can assist any such eager Police official in accepting all is OK. etc.
I have searched but not found this section.....HAS it disappeared for good? Why?

..Or are we heading for trouble with our trusty A frame + car ??

 

[scotjimland]

Can be found here

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[lookback]

:Blush: George!

 

[Oscarmax]

I looked at all the options and brought a Car-A-Tow A frame, good quality and easy to use without all this added hassle.

 

[Benni-Boy]

Hooray! well done scotJimLand. I love to see things in Black and white! Perhaps we may be able to put this subject to bed. Looking on the forums and in Motorhome publications everyone and his dog has an opinion on "A frames". Reminds me of the "barrack room lawyers" we encountered in the forces. Most of it is rumour or conjecture. Now we can see the definitive answer in print. I'm off on the phone to order mine!
Ps. I discovered a firm called Armitage's based at Knottingley nr. Ferrybridge in Yorkshire who do them. Seem a bit cheaper than Towtall, Caratow or Chris Cox frames. Anyone any experience of them? They also do motorhome towbars.

 

[scotjimland]

I discovered a firm called Armitage's based at Knottingley nr. Ferrybridge in Yorkshire who do them. Seem a bit cheaper than Towtall, Caratow or Chris Cox frames. Anyone any experience of them? They also do motorhome towbars.

Hi

Haven't seen one in the flesh, looks very like the Towtal frame..

A Frames - Towing Frames, A-frame, Tow Bars

re price.. not much in it as far as I can see..
personally I prefer the CarAtow frame which has a round bar fixed to the car rather than towing eyes.. but cannot say whether it's easier/quicker to hitch/unhitch or not.

 

[pappajohn]

Hi

Haven't seen one in the flesh, looks very like the Towtal frame..

A Frames - Towing Frames, A-frame, Tow Bars

re price.. not much in it as far as I can see..
personally I prefer the CarAtow frame which has a round bar fixed to the car rather than towing eyes.. but cannot say whether it's easier/quicker to hitch/unhitch or not.

caratow's go to be easier Jim.....2 hands instead of 3 :thumb:

hold the two arms and hook on the bar.....:thumb:

the others have to be aligned and with your third hand insert the pin:Sad:

but then, you know how they work...oh:

 

[Oscarmax]

Like I stated before I use a Car-A-Tow A frame dead easy, and I am on clutches, I have fitted a caravan jockey wheel to my A frame, (the brackets are already there to bolt too) makes it even easier