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  1. sean n maggie

    sean n maggie

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    Well finally took MH plus toad on trailer to be weighed today,,,,,gtw 4620 on MH plate,,, MH plus trailer plus toad all loaded 4700.........:( looks like trailer going and A frame coming..........Been to Armitages today and they showed us an official letter showing no changes in October 2014 regarding A frames........
     
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    That seems low for a train weight our Kontiki was 3500kg and the train weight was 5500kg.
    Our last motorhome was 3800kg and could tow 1700kg.

    The panel van we have now is:
    3500kg
    5500kg
    1750kg front axle
    1900kg rear axle
    Are you sure you are reading the right plate, if your motorhome is conversion on a ALCO chassi you need the builders plate so make sure you are looking at that plate.
    (y) Bob.
     
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    i am reading right arnt i ? gtw 4620kg.....
     
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    yes thats it4620kg gross trainweight.
     
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    thanks everyone,,,,A frame being fitted to toad next wednesday,,,and trailer on the market.....i should be well under GTW then,,,,,:(
     
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    Blimey that's not good, before you go any further down the a frame route, look into it because I think they go by the plate on the car and not what the car would weigh on a weigh bridge. o_O Bob.
     
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    only a smart car so not a heavy item.....
     
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    Just a point if you ae going abroardie Spain and others A frames will sometimes get pulled over and find. Pete :(

    Ps what does it say on the plate under the bonnet ? that weight seems very low.
     
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    only want A frame for uk touring....
     
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    doesnt matter what it says under the bonnet . the m,home constructors have possible lowered the train weight because of chassis changes . but their plate is the important one . at the moment .
     
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    Hi, you should be OK then, we had a new Smart on a Smart trailer the plate was 1300kg, so I'm thinking the car was about 900kg.
    Is it electronic braking I have lost track on the new laws, but seems thats the way to go.:D

    A few years ago we had an a frame, and one day the cable jammed causing the brakes to bind, the only reason I stopped was noticing I had lost a wheel trim on the car, It had boiled the fluid and the brakes were nearly on fire.(n)

    And then there was this; http://motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/smart-car-catches-fire.34983/

    But hundreds of people use a frames and never a problem, don't take me as negative we loved ours but being in Spain over winter, it was no good for us, just pointing it out. (y) Bob.
     
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    We always stop about ten minutes after setting off with a frame/toad to check all ok including wheels for heat.
     
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    manual says not to tow for more than 50km but is this just a general wording in the manual or is it for safety reasons ?...does anyone know ?
     
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    That might be due to the strength of the rear chassis extensions???
     
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    To be quite honest, if I read that I would look for some thing else..:(

    I do the same as Larry, stop after a few miles and check... and have done over 200 miles with out checking or any problems...(y)

    The electronic braking is the only safe sure way... just my unbiased opinion.. :)

    "Sorry"... I thought it was the "A" frame manual that said no more than 50 kilometers..
     
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    is this what you have old-mo ? or what you think is safest ?
     
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    I have the Tow-bar-2-tow car set up.. It was recomended by a few on the RVOC site, and I have done approx 3,000 miles and it is a fantastic system.

    It`s been behind a Yank Tank and the one we have now... Even Toyota were impressed when we had the car`s first service a couple of months ago..

    Only problem is.... they are not cheap... :(

    P.S.. This is their website = http://www.tow-bars2tow-cars.co.uk/about_us.php
     
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    just looked at them,,,,they sound and look great,,,
     
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    Not sure of the exact price, as we bought the Toyota from them all ready rigged up..

    But as most know...Me being a bit thick... I can even hook up without any problems in under a minute... So can the wife... :D

    There is even a button on the computer by the brake pedal that you press and it test`s every thing... and a bonus you only use the M.Home batteries for lights and indicators... thus no chance of flattening the car battery..(y)
     

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