Toothless 'Devil dog' ... hopefully not! (1 Viewer)

[tonyidle]

Have you considered adding some raw chicken into their diet?
Either raw chicken wings or carcasses can be eaten easily by small dogs and do a great job of keeping their teeth clean and breath fresh
Our GSD has lovely white gnashers

Agree totally. We have had a number of long dogs - currently Whippets but last two were Greyhounds. They have long jaws and back teeth can give trouble because they don't have much to do. With the last Greyhound and now the Whippets we feed entirely raw meat at home and decent kibble & chicken wings or lamb ribs when away in the MH. All have superb white teeth, fresh breath, ............ and their poo dries white. What there is of it.

 

[Robert Clark]

Agree totally. We have had a number of long dogs - currently Whippets but last two were Greyhounds. They have long jaws and back teeth can give trouble because they don't have much to do. With the last Greyhound and now the Whippets we feed entirely raw meat at home and decent kibble & chicken wings or lamb ribs when away in the MH. All have superb white teeth, fresh breath, ............ and their poo dries white. What there is of it.

We only give ours a little raw chicken, purely for teeth cleaning
Plus for a glossy coat ours also gets a raw egg on her breakfast as well as a tea spoon of coconut oil.

 

[jumartoo]

We only give ours a little raw chicken, purely for teeth cleaning
Plus for a glossy coat ours also gets a raw egg on her breakfast as well as a tea spoon of coconut oil.

See you've even managed to get food into this thread!

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[glenn2926]

Have you thought of using plaque off. This was recommended to us by the vet. It is just sea weed. Helps prevent plaque and her breath smells better as well. Just a very small amount on her food. She does not know it is there.

 

[Cat53]

Try not too feed your dog anything with carbs in. Dogs lack an enzyme in their saliva so carbs just adhere to the teeth. So ditch any kibble with rice or potatoes in. A raw chicken wind daily helps to clean their teeth too. Poor little Tazzy, she will soon be a gumi bear!

 

[Minxy]

Thanks for all the suggestions guys ... I don't think I'll give her any chicken wings/bones as I'd be too worried that they'd cause her problems as they can be very sharp when they splinter and she already has tummy problems anyway (vet thinks its because the previous Indian owners gave her spicy food which shot her system!). She loves hide chews (the thin twizzle stick type) but insists on one of the other dogs starting if off for her to make it softer!

I'll have to see what she'll eat as she's a fussy little sod!

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[Robert Clark]

If you're concerned about bones you should chech this out
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[parknride]

Hope tazzy is better soon

 

[Minxy]

If I did get some raw chicken wings I can see there being a massive row ... my Mum loves cooked ones and we always save ours for her ... if she finds out we're feeding them to the dogs there'll be hell to pay!

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[Minxy]

Hope tazzy is better soon

She's okay - having a nice snooze on the bed at the moment, I haven't had a shuftie at what they've done yet as I don't want to 'upset' her - she's back at the vets on Friday for a check-up which should prove 'interesting' for the vet!

 

[CWH]

If you're concerned about bones you should chech this out
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I'm not discounting this article or the diet, and it does seem to make a lot of sense, but some of the points made would bear more investigation, eg

"we were desperate: our dogs were sick and dying around us. " (why?)

"CHC advocates real food for dogs.That is, food that Mother Nature has designed, over millions of years, and which has made the species thrive for millions of years." (OK I'd agree with that, but how does it square with the next quote?)

"CHC note - This article describes which bones should be fed. It does not therefore mention the other ingredients of the BARF diet. Bones should make up around 70% of the diet, with the remaining 30% being a mixture of lightly steamed or pulverised raw vegetables, cottage cheese, fish, fruit and good quality human table scraps. A quality complete vitamin and mineral supplement, extra vitamin C, and an oil such as hemp or flax seed oil should also be added." (cottage cheese, designed by Mother Nature?)
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But, as somebody I knew used to say, "If it works, it can't be entirely wrong!"

 

[gus-lopez]

New reply to an old thread but.....
In a dentist waiting room the other day and had a gander at their private patient price list.
Straight extraction = £78
Surgical extraction = £130.
I reckon £180 for three knashers removed was a bargain.

Wonder if they would consider human patients !

35€ straight extraction around here.

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[gus-lopez]

See you've even managed to get food into this thread!

I saw the snow up on the espuñas yesterday when on way to & fro Alicante.

 

[Robert Clark]

I'm not discounting this article or the diet, and it does seem to make a lot of sense, but some of the points made would bear more investigation, eg

"we were desperate: our dogs were sick and dying around us. " (why?)

"CHC advocates real food for dogs.That is, food that Mother Nature has designed, over millions of years, and which has made the species thrive for millions of years." (OK I'd agree with that, but how does it square with the next quote?)

"CHC note - This article describes which bones should be fed. It does not therefore mention the other ingredients of the BARF diet. Bones should make up around 70% of the diet, with the remaining 30% being a mixture of lightly steamed or pulverised raw vegetables, cottage cheese, fish, fruit and good quality human table scraps. A quality complete vitamin and mineral supplement, extra vitamin C, and an oil such as hemp or flax seed oil should also be added." (cottage cheese, designed by Mother Nature?)
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But, as somebody I knew used to say, "If it works, it can't be entirely wrong!"

We know a dog trainer who is also a bahavior specialist - she told me that many of the 'problem' dogs she sees have diet issues, in particular those who are fed on Bakers Complete. It has been shown to make many dogs sick both physically and psychologically and when replaced with 'proper' food brings miraculous results.

 

[CWH]

We know a dog trainer who is also a bahavior specialist - she told me that many of the 'problem' dogs she sees have diet issues, in particular those who are fed on Bakers Complete. It has been shown to make many dogs sick both physically and psychologically and when replaced with 'proper' food brings miraculous results.

I'm not disagreeing with the concept at all, as a horse trainer I know how much of an impact diet has on both behaviour and overall health & fitness. I'm just questioning some of the ingredients that CHC is suggesting are part of a dog's natural diet; and wondering what exactly they were feeding their dogs on before that apparently made them so ill - I feel they need to specify this, if only to warn other owners.

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[Robert Clark]

I'm not disagreeing with the concept at all, as a horse trainer I know how much of an impact diet has on both behaviour and overall health & fitness. I'm just questioning some of the ingredients that CHC is suggesting are part of a dog's natural diet; and wondering what exactly they were feeding their dogs on before that apparently made them so ill - I feel they need to specify this, if only to warn other owners.

Sorry - I wasnt suggesting you were
I was just adding an anecdote for good measure

 

[CWH]

Sorry - I wasnt suggesting you were
I was just adding an anecdote for good measure

Anything that persuades people not to feed their dogs chocolate & cake (as well as some of the worst "complete feed") has to be good!!!

 

[CWH]

@Robert Clark , you might be interested in this, there's a really relevant piece at 23 minutes (the whole thing is 76 minutes long)
http://www.cultureunplugged.com/documentary/watch-online/play/8638/Juliette-of-the-Herbs

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[Minxy]

Tazzy's been for her check up and all is well ... she's currently slobbing on the beanbag in the sunshine.

 

[tonyidle]

I'm not discounting this article or the diet, and it does seem to make a lot of sense, but some of the points made would bear more investigation, eg

"we were desperate: our dogs were sick and dying around us. " (why?)

"CHC advocates real food for dogs.That is, food that Mother Nature has designed, over millions of years, and which has made the species thrive for millions of years." (OK I'd agree with that, but how does it square with the next quote?)

"CHC note - This article describes which bones should be fed. It does not therefore mention the other ingredients of the BARF diet. Bones should make up around 70% of the diet, with the remaining 30% being a mixture of lightly steamed or pulverised raw vegetables, cottage cheese, fish, fruit and good quality human table scraps. A quality complete vitamin and mineral supplement, extra vitamin C, and an oil such as hemp or flax seed oil should also be added." (cottage cheese, designed by Mother Nature?)
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But, as somebody I knew used to say, "If it works, it can't be entirely wrong!"

In the wild (which dogs as such never were) their prey would include herbivores with appropriate stomach contents. If allowed to dogs will 'graze' on grass and other plants and appreciate raw vegetables. Mine love carrots.

 

[CWH]

In the wild (which dogs as such never were) their prey would include herbivores with appropriate stomach contents. If allowed to dogs will 'graze' on grass and other plants and appreciate raw vegetables. Mine love carrots.

Mine used to love all raw veg too, what made me blink was "real food for dogs" including "cottage cheese", but I suppose that's like curdled milk, as you say from the guts of their prey...

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