Time to boycott some sites?

[jako999]

Hi all I think it’s time we all started to boycott some sites that are try to rip us off, it’s the only way they will get the message we are not willing to pay on principle.
A fairly local site we use sometimes have just put their electric up to £10 a night for 10a. We use solar 90% of the time but at the same time we need to make a stand against the rip off merchants out there.

Thanks

 

[xsparks]

I've been boycotting them for years but someone will always pay. What you think is expensive is always related to what you can afford. Look at the price some women will pay for shoes or designer bags.

 

[Toady]

Our nearest campsite in Pembrokeshire is over £40 pn in summer.

Having travelled thru France, Spain and Portugal for the last 3 months, the most we have paid is 15 Euros pn.

 

[PeterCarole29]

I see what you mean but its only my opion this isnt the site to do it on

 

[Janine]

Hi all I think it’s time we all started to boycott some sites that are try to rip us off, it’s the only way they will get the message we are not willing to pay on principle.
A fairly local site we use sometimes have just put their electric up to £10 a night for 10a. We use solar 90% of the time but at the same time we need to make a stand against the rip off merchants out there.

Thanks

Is that Yew Tree Farm? I noticed that this weekend's rally was £15 a night plus £10 electric. Nice to still have the choice though.

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[PeterCarole29]

Its Jim you need to speak to first get his support or advice if you want to get something going

 

[Lenny HB]

Rarely ever use sites so can't boycott any. But if I was to use a site I think it's much better for a seperate charge for EHU that forcing you to have it.
£10 is not much electrity at commercial rates, those caravanners who use fan heaters in their awnings probably use a lot more than that.

 

[DavidG58]

I am with above, nice to have the choice to have electrics or not, looking at my home consumption £10 / day really isn’t over the odds these days

 

[Wissel]

10a is enough to run a 2kw electric heater. So over 24 hours, a van could easily use over 40KW of power.

If electric costs don’t reduce soon, get used to £10 a night (or more).

It isn’t the sites fault.

 

[reckless]

I am with above, nice to have the choice to have electrics or not, looking at my home consumption £10 / day really isn’t over the odds these days

Commercial leccy charges are much higher than domestic so I have a degree of understanding of the dilemma facing site owners. No-one likes to feel they're being ripped off however.
If a site fee seems too high for what we require at that time, we find an alternative. We can all make the decision to 'boycott' it doesn't need to be a collective, in my opinion.
Site owners will notice if enough campers aren't using them.

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[68c]

Do you have a smart meter? I average £5 a day electric at home with peaks on laundry day or when I do a ten hour run on my 3D printer (350w). I guess the need to cover direct operating costs plus initial installation and ongoing maintenance/insurance and a small profit means £10 a day may not be hugely excessive, £5 a day would probably be generous and a good deal for us.

 

[DavidG58]

Do you have a smart meter? I average £5 a day electric at home with peaks on laundry day or when I do a ten hour run on my 3D printer (350w). I guess the need to cover direct operating costs plus initial installation and ongoing maintenance/insurance and a small profit means £10 a day may not be hugely excessive, £5 a day would probably be generous and a good deal for us.

Try plugging in my MH with 3Kwhr Alde £5 would vanish before breakfast

I am happy to pay for what we use, but equally happy not to have to and use our battery and gas

 

[xsparks]

I thought the moan was about the daily charge not the electric.

 

[EuroTrotters]

Our nearest campsite in Pembrokeshire is over £40 pn in summer.

Having travelled thru France, Spain and Portugal for the last 3 months, the most we have paid is 15 Euros pn.

I pay 16p a Kw/h to Iberdrola in Spain. Thats with the standing charge added.

In the UK, I pay 34p a Kw/h

Local Tax+Bin Tax in Spain £550 a year
Council Tax in the UK, similar sized property £2,600 a year

Diesel in UK, £1.65 litre, Spain £1.40

House insurance in Spain, around the same. But car insurance is around 1/2 of what we pay in the UK.

I had a Business in Spain that cost me around 50% lower than the cost of sales of my UK Businesses.

Probably why Campsites have to charge so much here to make a living.

Its the same with Pubs, costs of living is very different. 6 Drinks at our Local Bar in Spain (4 pints of lager, a glass of wine and a coffee) €11.70 (£10.45) Same drinks at our Local pub in the UK, £33.75.

We did stay at a site in Cheshire a couple of weeks ago charging £18 a night inc 16amp EHU.

https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/certificated-locations/england/cheshire/nantwich/Oakdene/ Lovely couple Alison and Jeffry from my home town

But a site not far way had metered bollards coin operated.

(why do I stay in the UK?)

 

[Hoovie]

Why is £10 to cover the cost of drawing potentially over £1/Hrs worth of electric for over 10 hours a rip-off?

I would say the problem ends up being people think they are being ripped off (incorrectly) and get into the mindset of "I'll show them!" and use as much electricity as they possibly can, resulting in the site having to increase their costs to cover the costs of inconsiderate users.
Catch-22.
Metered would be a better option.

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[MisterB]

Paying for what you use seems to be the
correct thing to do and could anyone morally argue against that? There is however (as pointed out) commercial rates and of course there might be an additional cost to pay for metering set up. You can buy 'in cable' meters that are often used in boatyards, so a simple deposit scheme for the meters could be one way forward to avoid extensive set up costs and to ensure one 'camper' isn't subsidising another 'camper'.

I am pretty sure though that whatever process is put into place, some will abuse it or find a work around it. We all like a bargain but using something without paying for it, when it's 'chargeable' is theft. Be prepared to pay for what you use or be prepared to accept the consequences, which may very well be site price increases for everyone.

A decent size battery might be one answer ...?

 

[TOAD on Tour]

surely a boycott is that you just don’t book the site if you feel that way!!!? Personally having a choice of eleccy or not allows you to make the decision….nobody is forcing you to book the site and there are 1000’s of alternatives available. Not entirely sure of the point being made. I do laugh sometimes that people seem to forgot the cost of installing EHU points etc. That the site had to invest in. Just my thoughts.

 

[Northernraider]

I've been successfully boycotting sites since 2007

But I have been on 2 so far in Morocco, first one was £3.46 a night with electric. Current one is £2.41 per night. Electric is 90p dearer

Wild horses couldn't drag me on a UK site.

 

[Brains]

You can boycott the site by simply not going there.

Within the next few years the number of EV's is going to increase massively, within just over a decade many (most?) of the the cars towing caravans will be EV's

EV's need charging, which means every commercial campsite will need to fit metered charging facilities.
The good news is if every pitch is metered you will only be charged for what to use.

 

[EuroTrotters]

You can boycott the site by simply not going there.

Within the next few years the number of EV's is going to increase massively, within just over a decade many (most?) of the the cars towing caravans will be EV's

EV's need charging, which means every commercial campsite will need to fit metered charging facilities.
The good news is if every pitch is metered you will only be charged for what to use.

But will every site have the capacity to charge EV's alongside the Caravans consumption ?

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[Mr porky]

We survied covid in our motorhome on our business storage and we paid the electric. It worked out at £8 a day then so £10 a day isnt much.

 

[Gaston aires]

Hi all I think it’s time we all started to boycott some sites that are try to rip us off, it’s the only way they will get the message we are not willing to pay on principle.
A fairly local site we use sometimes have just put their electric up to £10 a night for 10a. We use solar 90% of the time but at the same time we need to make a stand against the rip off merchants out there.

Thanks

I agree but I wonder how much leccy would be used in the winter ? Could well be a tenner.
Phil

 

[TinaLes]

As I have always said since having a MH, provided the site offers electric or non electric pitches, then that is the way forward, especially in the summer months.
Caravans tend to need an EHU as they don't come as standard with much solar, and only one leisure battery due to weight constraints and low payloads. I can honestly say that with current electric prices, if we were using our previous caravan with Alde Heating, TV, Fridge Freezer, laptops, and lighting, then I doubt whether £10 per night would cover the costs at this time of year, which we used to do a lot more of in those days.
I cant see many campsites including The Major clubs offering EV charge points on every pitch, I doubt they would have the capability to provide that many, and the install costs would be horrific. I know The CMC charge £9 per night for EV charging but I bet they only have a couple of dedicated charge points.
I guess that people will have to make sure they have sufficient charge left in their EV vehicles to get to the nearest external garage or EV charge point which we are told are rapidly increasing in numbers.
LES

 

[Mikey RV]

I was looking at some sites last night I have used and Hidden valley in North Devon charge electric at 53p a unit.

 

[Widge]

I've been boycotting them for years but someone will always pay. What you think is expensive is always related to what you can afford. Look at the price some women will pay for shoes or designer bags.

Or even campervans.

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[chaser]

I've been successfully boycotting sites since 2007

But I have been on 2 so far in Morocco, first one was £3.46 a night with electric. Current one is £2.41 per night. Electric is 90p dearer

Wild horses couldn't drag me on a UK site.

As have we , don't see how a boycott is going to work, we boycott sites all the time, just don't go to them, as to electric we don't need it, so if you have a choice no need to pay for it.
But saying that if you and a thousand others set up a boycott you can gaurantee it won't make one iota of difference as there will always be plenty who will pay it.

 

[dulvil]

You can boycott the site by simply not going there.

Within the next few years the number of EV's is going to increase massively, within just over a decade many (most?) of the the cars towing caravans will be EV's

EV's need charging, which means every commercial campsite will need to fit metered charging facilities.
The good news is if every pitch is metered you will only be charged for what to use.

If they want to charge their e.v they can go to a local ev point and charge. No need for sites to install them, they haven’t got a diesel pump for me

 

[eddie]

Having recently sold a campsite that was always on the OK side of busy, we had a word we'd use when some didn't like our policy on dogs/children/electricity/other people having fun (Select your moan)

The word? "Next" and smile at the customer behind them

If you don't like a site simply don't go, trust me you don't need to waste your time telling the site that you don't like their policies as they won't care

 

[gus-lopez]

Commercial leccy charges are much higher than domestic

Why is there a "commercial rate" just scamming to me? Why ? Do they sell domestic electric at a loss? No, so why commercial?
They don't charge more for petrol or diesel being used commercially?
Same scamming with water & rubbish.

EV's need charging, which means every commercial campsite will need to fit metered charging facilities.

& at commercial rates no one will be using them except the halfwits who don't know the costs.

 

[Nanniemate]

I boycott loads of sites , for different reasons cost, location, size facilities.

Or some may say thats consumer choice. I could not boycott a site that I would not go to anyway

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