Time for a Globecar (1 Viewer)

[Blue Knight]

We got the freedom pack thrown in and the solar panel up graded to a 120w on our revolution . I think it is permanently 1/2 price! our van is a similar spec to that and has the 2nd rear bed.

It made me smile when you mentioned that the pack is permantly half price because we've thought the same for some time too The 120W solar unit is what I want after my current set-up which has done us fine for off-grid camping.

Did you opt for an awning?

 

[jezport]

That's a very useful bit of info - a big for that.

Too date I have only ever specified 'Awning' in the desired kit list to the dealer so what would you recomend I opt for, assuming that the dealer allows for options.

I did note at the NEC last week that Globecar were doing the Freedom Pack which included the F65 but I can remember if this applied to the Revolution model.

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Bare in mind that I make awning blocker panels as part of my business so know more than most.

There are pros and cons between having an F45 fitted on the side and an F65 on the roof.

The Revolution is high so if you go for an F65 you will need taller panels or awning to fit. I also doubt a privacy room will fit due to the curved body (I cut my panels to fit)

If you fit an F45 you will have to drill the body and put brackets through to the inside, but you will have a lower awning that is on the less curved part of the van.

If you have a roof mounted awning you need the 4 meter one on the Revolution. the 370 wont cover the sliding door fully due to the position of the roof brackets

Then you need to look at the aesthetics, do you think a side mounted awning will be ugly compared to a roof mount, it also has more side protrusion.

Its not so simple!

 

[1ten]

It made me smile when you mentioned that the pack is permantly half price because we've thought the same for some time too The 120W solar unit is what I want after my current set-up which has done us fine for off-grid camping.

Did you opt for an awning?

We have the F65 awing and are happy with that, we don't use any sides on it. It also looks a lot less intrusive that the F45 we had on our T5.
the 120w seems to work well for us, the van was delivered in May so will have a better idea if we need more once we have had winter. We have two almost teenage daughters so normally stay on sites with hook up anyway, I don't think the Revolution shower is up to it for all four of us! We can also use hook up on our drive very easily if need be. The van has been parked up for the last four weeks with the fridge on and in the shade of our house and there is still life in the batteries!

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[Blue Knight]

Bare in mind that I make awning blocker panels as part of my business so know more than most.

There are pros and cons between having an F45 fitted on the side and an F65 on the roof.

The Revolution is high so if you go for an F65 you will need taller panels or awning to fit. I also doubt a privacy room will fit due to the curved body (I cut my panels to fit)

If you fit an F45 you will have to drill the body and put brackets through to the inside, but you will have a lower awning that is on the less curved part of the van.

If you have a roof mounted awning you need the 4 meter one on the Revolution. the 370 wont cover the sliding door fully due to the position of the roof brackets

Then you need to look at the aesthetics, do you think a side mounted awning will be ugly compared to a roof mount, it also has more side protrusion.

Its not so simple!

Crickey, it's not so simple at all. I best check the course list at Durham University to see if they do a BSc in Awning Design & Tecnology.

I think I would much prefer the top mounted unit from your list of options but then again I would need to go down the bespoke panel option - I think I know a man for that

You're a star

 

[Blue Knight]

We have the F65 awing and are happy with that, we don't use any sides on it. It also looks a lot less intrusive that the F45 we had on our T5.
the 120w seems to work well for us, the van was delivered in May so will have a better idea if we need more once we have had winter. We have two almost teenage daughters so normally stay on sites with hook up anyway, I don't think the Revolution shower is up to it for all four of us! We can also use hook up on our drive very easily if need be. The van has been parked up for the last four weeks with the fridge on and in the shade of our house and there is still life in the batteries!

That's invaluable to me - many thanks You look to have bought the exact same combo as the one we're considering so it's great to know that it works well. It also goes nicely with the F65 choice after @jezport gave his tip-top advice.

All the best,

Andrew

 

[jezport]

Crickey, it's not so simple at all. I best check the course list at Durham University to see if they do a BSc in Awning Design & Tecnology.

I think I would much prefer the top mounted unit from your list of options but then again I would need to go down the bespoke panel option - I think I know a man for that

You're a star

Custom panels are no problem to me

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[Garfields]

We have the F65 mounted on the roof
We have a sun screen the Mrs G made that hooks on
Used for the first time when in Germany in September
No idea if fitting one to the side panel would be better but the less holes I have to drill the happier I am

 

[Blue Knight]

A quick update:

I spoke with a dealer at the NEC who offered a good PX price against a Revolution which in itself was a cancelled order. We then agreed on a cost-to-change price.

I then wanted a few extras adding to the van so after a wee bit of negotiation we settled on a new increased cost-to-change price.

I then have a chat today with said dealer and discover my new price does not include the awning and the alloys. This is particularly annoying as I went through the list by line item to ensure that no mistakes were being made.

It's not the money which is an issue but the principle of the mistake so I'm not yet certain if I'm going to accept or not.

I'll have a think about it tonight.

 

[Anthea M]

A quick update:

I spoke with a dealer at the NEC who offered a good PX price against a Revolution which in itself was a cancelled order. We then agreed on a cost-to-change price.

I then wanted a few extras adding to the van so after a wee bit of negotiation we settled on a new increased cost-to-change price.

I then have a chat today with said dealer and discover my new price does not include the awning and the alloys. This is particularly annoying as I went through the list by line item to ensure that no mistakes were being made.

It's not the money which is an issue but the principle of the mistake so I'm not yet certain if I'm going to accept or not.

I'll have a think about it tonight.

Keep the dealer sweating too!! You never know!

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[Minxy]

A quick update:

I spoke with a dealer at the NEC who offered a good PX price against a Revolution which in itself was a cancelled order. We then agreed on a cost-to-change price.

I then wanted a few extras adding to the van so after a wee bit of negotiation we settled on a new increased cost-to-change price.

I then have a chat today with said dealer and discover my new price does not include the awning and the alloys. This is particularly annoying as I went through the list by line item to ensure that no mistakes were being made.

It's not the money which is an issue but the principle of the mistake so I'm not yet certain if I'm going to accept or not.

I'll have a think about it tonight.

An awning can be added to the roof quite easily, you just buy the fixing kit for the existing roof 'lugs' along with the correct length of awning - you can't fit one shorter than the roof as the strengthened points on the awning casing have to line up with where the fixings/lugs go ... we found this out when we change from a 6m to a 6.36m PVC as our existing awning wouldn't fit.

However the allegedly 'half-price' kit is actually a good price as the awning and fixings alone could easily cost nearly that much on their own.

 

[Minxy]

Just another thing to think of ... check which fridge it has, some come with the extra large one (optional extra).

 

[Blue Knight]

Keep the dealer sweating too!! You never know!

I like your style Anthea but I'm not holding out much hope.

If it was a single small mistake then I would be fine with it but I have discussed this issue with the dealer on multiple occasions so there should be no last minute hiccups.

The dealer in question has only managed to achieve a score of 1 out of 5 for its last three Google reviews so IMO if they can't get their sales bit right then what hope do I have for any aftersales.

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[jezport]

Just another thing to think of ... check which fridge it has, some come with the extra large one (optional extra).

The 18 Revolution comes with a smaller compressor fridge than the 17 model. Its still larger than the Campscout but suffers a smaller freezer section.

 

[Blue Knight]

Just another thing to think of ... check which fridge it has, some come with the extra large one (optional extra).

That's a good point Mel since Nicky and I would both like a reasonably sized fridge for my huge choccie stash

Thanks for the awning info - much appreciated.

There's more stock at SMC now so I may visit them this weekend to see what options we have.

 

[Blue Knight]

The 18 Revolution comes with a smaller compressor fridge than the 17 model. Its still larger than the Campscout but suffers a smaller freezer section.

There's no question that you really know your stuff.

That said, I've spent a bit of time researching the Globecar brand and yet I still find that I know so little in some areas. This is not good when choosing a van.

I do find the Globecar brand to be a very difficult technical subject to understand in terms of kit, equipment, options etc.

I've said it before but a flat in Spain would be much simpler

All the best,

Andrew

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[jezport]

There's no question that you really know your stuff.

That said, I've spent a bit of time researching the Globecar brand and yet I still find that I know so little in some areas. This is not good when choosing a van.

I do find the Globecar brand to be a very difficult technical subject to understand in terms of kit, equipment, options etc.

I've said it before but a flat in Spain would be much simpler

All the best,

Andrew

If you need to know anything just call me on my mobile, the number is on the Parrotsol website.
I know more about it than the dealers!

 

[Blue Knight]

If you need to know anything just call me on my mobile, the number is on the Parrotsol website.
I know more about it than the dealers!

I may give you the details of the dealer that I've been using because they don't know much about Globecar.

As it turns out the dealer and I have not been in contact with each other today so that Revolution is now off the shopping list.

 

[Minxy]

I may give you the details of the dealer that I've been using because they don't know much about Globecar.

As it turns out the dealer and I have not been in contact with each other today so that Revolution is now off the shopping list.

Hmm ... difficulty is that there aren't that many Globecar Revolutions about so I wouldn't necessarily rule it out completely ...

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[Neckender]

@Blue Knight Andrew I think @Phillybarbour is after selling his Campscout Revolution and it’s a 16 or 17 plate upgraded to 4500 kg, if your interested and can’t contact him, I could contact him on another forum.

John.

 

[Blue Knight]

@Blue Knight Andrew I think @Phillybarbour is after selling his Campscout Revolution and it’s a 16 or 17 plate upgraded to 4500 kg, if your interested and can’t contact him, I could contact him on another forum.

John.

Hi John, I've just clicked on Phil's link/Avatar and his van looks to be the 67-plate Revolution (5000-miles) which I saw on Autotrader.

If I don't use a dealer PX scheme then I would need to sell my Pilote privately and that just scares the living daylights out of me.

We don't have space at our house for two vans.

 

[Blue Knight]

Hmm ... difficulty is that there aren't that many Globecar Revolutions about so I wouldn't necessarily rule it out completely ...

Yep, agreed Mel but the bit that plays in my favour is that they don't fly off the shelves either.

The silver Revolution on display at the NEC was sold on the Sunday but the rest of the 2019 UK build slots have not been touched yet.

There will be ample opportunity to grab a new one me thinks.

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[Grianan]

At least you have your Pilote so you can keep MHing. Our June delivery turned into end September build and we’re still waiting for it to arrive in U.K. ... on this basis I would have a serious discussion with your dealer about maintaining the part exchange value if the van is older/has more miles due to delay in new van arriving even if they try to fob you off saying it never happens ... it does!

 

[1ten]

Our van was delivered 3 months later than they stated it would be. We nearly got an apology.

 

[Grianan]

Our van was delivered 3 months later than they stated it would be. We nearly got an apology.

3 months late would have been just in time for our October fortnight ... no more time off work now till 22nd December

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[Blue Knight]

It's quite surprising that a big converter such as Globecar is producing poor delivery timelines for its punters.

 

[Blue Knight]

At least you have your Pilote so you can keep MHing. Our June delivery turned into end September build and we’re still waiting for it to arrive in U.K. ... on this basis I would have a serious discussion with your dealer about maintaining the part exchange value if the van is older/has more miles due to delay in new van arriving even if they try to fob you off saying it never happens ... it does!

That's a really good point as I'm sure some dealers will try and reduce the PX values - very cunning!

 

[1ten]

It's quite surprising that a big converter such as Globecar is producing poor delivery timelines for its punters.

Or maybe it’s the dealers thinking it will help win a sale

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[Blue Knight]

Or maybe it’s the dealers thinking it will help win a sale

You could well be right there. After all, we don't get to see the real list of build slots etc.

 

[Garfields]

It's quite surprising that a big converter such as Globecar is producing poor delivery timelines for its punters.

If you look on the German forum you see the wait for some models is very long
Revolutions are built in batches if you miss one run it could be a while till the next

 

[Minxy]

It's quite surprising that a big converter such as Globecar is producing poor delivery timelines for its punters.

Or maybe it’s the dealers thinking it will help win a sale

It could simply be because they are a massive producer of PVCs that are in high demand and obviously there has to be a limit somewhere on productivity.

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