Swivel seat security (1 Viewer)

Affiliate links here may earn MHF compensation
Jan 27, 2018
2,779
2,227
Northampton
Funster No
52,151
MH
Rapido & Bongone
Lots of pictures in this thread and here

The pin is put up through the hole a d the yellowbit down on top of it
 
Jan 16, 2014
1,394
2,612
Surrey
Funster No
29,725
MH
Rapido 854f
Exp
Since 2012
Thanks for the info. How would the Oxford lock fit in the hole?
The different locks have different pin sizes which are typically between 6mm and 10mm I think

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 
Nov 18, 2016
774
1,171
Worcestershire
Funster No
46,138
MH
Burstner Elegance
I’m guessing I’m not going to be able to do this because I have part of the Alde heating system under my 2 front seats in my Burstner Elegance?
 
Oct 29, 2016
4,582
55,658
Surrey
Funster No
45,842
MH
Carthago C Tourer
Exp
Motor Homing 5 years, caravan previously
Just to re-kindle this useful thread, I have just ordered the Patriot Disk Lock From The Bike shop on Ebay, £38 delivered so good price was had. I will wait for it to arrive and install it, then I will know better what thickness packing washer will be needed.
I have The clutch Claw also, but thought a more visible deterrent would be a steering wheel lock, as even a partially sighted thief wouldn't miss seeing it, so I ordered the Popular Stop Lock for £29.90, I like the steering wheel Disklock also, but fell over when I saw the price of over £100 o_O.
I am gonna feel like a jailer carrying all those extra keys around now, might need to get the OH a bigger stronger hand bag.:giggle:
Cheers to all.
LES
 
Oct 13, 2016
1,060
900
Grays - Essex - UK
Funster No
45,568
MH
Mercedes Hymer B680
Exp
Been moho’ing for a time now
Following reading this post some time back I brought the clutch claw and the motorbike disk lock, I already had the steering wheel lock and alarm, but I think with more visible deterrents the better I feel
 
Last edited:
Oct 29, 2016
4,582
55,658
Surrey
Funster No
45,842
MH
Carthago C Tourer
Exp
Motor Homing 5 years, caravan previously
Can anybody tell me where I can get the security window stickers from, looks like a good idea to show security measures have been taken from the outside of the van.
Thanks.
LES
 

Stealaway

Free Member
Jan 8, 2013
8,496
11,541
Dronfield - Derbyshire
Funster No
24,202
MH
Burstner Lyseo 690G
Exp
Happy FLT since 2011
I made this one in MS Word and encapsulated them

IMG_20200822_123350.jpg
 
Aug 17, 2019
964
1,247
Highlands
Funster No
63,354
MH
Van conversion
Exp
5 years
Can anybody tell me where I can get the security window stickers from, looks like a good idea to show security measures have been taken from the outside of the van.
Thanks.
LES
You could try Kev and Carolyn they post on here see post 86.I received some myself recently.
 

pwilmo

LIFE MEMBER
Oct 17, 2009
365
577
Kings Lynn, Norfolk
Funster No
8,936
MH
Auto Roller 747
Exp
Since 2005
This may be handy info for if you are wanting to fit a Patriot lock.

The info is all out there already posted, but not all in one post.

Short shackle in the locked position : 10.5mm gap
Long shackle in the locked position : 45mm gap

Short shackle: 40.5mm length
Long shackle: 75mm length

Length of shackle inside locked body: 30mm
( same for both locks )

Longer shackle length may be a problem if you have a narrow space underneath the swivel base.)

Unfortunately on the driver seat of my Ducato Bessacarr 2006 the overall width of the two swivel plates was 14mm.

So I bought the extended shackle Patriot ( the one for use with a chain), and padded the shackle underneath with M14 x 30mm diameter washers to make a snug fit. Maybe for "On - Off" usability, gaffer tape around all the washers to form one large spacer piece.

The window stickers I designed and printed out on normal paper. I used clear wide parcel tape, sticky side onto the printed side, trimmed off accurately any excess parcel tape around the edges of the label shape.

Layed out a length of parcel tape, sticky side up.
Carefully positioned the label shape ( unprinted side down, printed side up ) onto the parcel tape, so that width of the tape overlap was equal along the top and the bottom edges. Cut the end tape overlaps to be a liitle wider. This was ready to stick to the inside of tbe windows.
IMG_20210303_111138.jpg
IMG_20210303_110224.jpg
IMG_20210303_110954.jpg
IMG_20210303_110716.jpg
IMG_20210303_110859.jpg
IMG_20210303_111138.jpg
IMG_20210303_110050.jpg
IMG_20210303_110109.jpg

IMG_20210303_111319.jpg
 
Last edited:

Lenny HB

LIFE MEMBER
Oct 18, 2007
54,922
157,239
On the coast in West Sussex
Funster No
658
MH
Carthago Compactline
Exp
Since 2008 & many years tugging
This may be handy info for if you are wanting to fit a Patriot lock.

The info is all out there already posted, but not all in one post.

Short shackle in the locked position : 10.5mm gap
Long shackle in the locked position : 45mm gap

Short shackle: 40.5mm length
Long shackle: 75mm length

Length of shackle inside locked body: 30mm
( same for both locks )

Longer shackle length may be a problem if you have a narrow space underneath the swivel base.)

Unfortunately on the driver seat of my Ducato Bessacarr 2006 the overall width of the two swivel plates was 14mm.

So I bought the extended shackle Patriot ( the one for use with a chain), and padded the shackle underneath with M14 x 30mm diameter washers to make a snug fit. Maybe for "On - Off" usability, gaffer tape around all the washers to form one large spacer piece.

The window stickers I designed and printed out on normal paper. I used clear wide parcel tape, sticky side onto the printed side, trimmed off accurately any excess parcel tape around the edges of the label shape.

Layed out a length of parcel tape, sticky side up.
Carefully positioned the label shape ( unprinted side down, printed side up ) onto the parcel tape, so that width of the tape overlap was equal along the top and the bottom edges. Cut the end tape overlaps to be a liitle wider. This was ready to stick to the inside of tbe windows.
View attachment 470421View attachment 470422View attachment 470423View attachment 470435View attachment 470424View attachment 470425View attachment 470426View attachment 470428
View attachment 470430
Mounted like that you can't swivel the seat at all. I just mounted through the bottom plate, it stops the seat swivelling to the driving position but I can still swivel when facing the rear when lounging..

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 
Last edited:

pwilmo

LIFE MEMBER
Oct 17, 2009
365
577
Kings Lynn, Norfolk
Funster No
8,936
MH
Auto Roller 747
Exp
Since 2005
Well yeah!! Lenny HB
That's the idea of a lock!!, to lock the swivel ..
When we are inside the van the lock is not used, so we can swivel away as desired.
 

pwilmo

LIFE MEMBER
Oct 17, 2009
365
577
Kings Lynn, Norfolk
Funster No
8,936
MH
Auto Roller 747
Exp
Since 2005
Yup, that makes good sense.
I didn't have my thinking cap on .. I've only just moved up from years of "Cable Tie D.I.Y." you know.

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 

pwilmo

LIFE MEMBER
Oct 17, 2009
365
577
Kings Lynn, Norfolk
Funster No
8,936
MH
Auto Roller 747
Exp
Since 2005
You should see my assortment of different coloured gaffa tape, and cable ties in all lengths.
Bodger Class 1 Certified
 
Apr 22, 2018
7,068
12,982
Herts.
Funster No
53,503
MH
Adria Coral lowline
I prefer the lock the entire seat option. I wouldn’t use the lock whilst away in the van, only when parked up. I also think if you could rotate the seat too far, so it’s all the way facing the rear, you can adjust seat so you sit/prop yourself on the back of it and drive it.
 

Stealaway

Free Member
Jan 8, 2013
8,496
11,541
Dronfield - Derbyshire
Funster No
24,202
MH
Burstner Lyseo 690G
Exp
Happy FLT since 2011
I prefer the lock the entire seat option. I wouldn’t use the lock whilst away in the van, only when parked up. I also think if you could rotate the seat too far, so it’s all the way facing the rear, you can adjust seat so you sit/prop yourself on the back of it and drive it.

My son said it was too simple and he was determined to drive it with the seat locked--- he failed miserably and had to admit defeat.
If he couldn't manage it I'm happy nobody is going to be able to - a good mod and such a small light weight device.
 
Jan 19, 2014
9,579
25,366
Derbyshire
Funster No
29,757
MH
Elddis Accordo 105
Exp
since 2014
My son said it was too simple and he was determined to drive it with the seat locked--- he failed miserably and had to admit defeat.
If he couldn't manage it I'm happy nobody is going to be able to - a good mod and such a small light weight device.
You'd need rubber legs to get round the steering wheel 🤔maybe 😏

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 

Northernraider

LIFE MEMBER
Jul 30, 2017
29,074
191,229
On the sofa ....
Funster No
49,727
MH
Mobilvetta eurayacht
Exp
On and off since 95
I looked at the practicalities of your statement of removing the Patriot security lock with a cordless grinder and I feel that at least in the way I have fitted mine that the removal with a cordless grinder are unfounded.

I own a Dewalt cordless grinder, the choice of most would-be thief's so offered up my grinder in many positions to try and get to the rear of the Patriot security lock to cut through the seat base plate as you suggest can be done and as you can see from the photos that this is not possible. So although you could cut up the sides of the lock, I'm happy that the rear can not be accessed.

View attachment 370446

View attachment 370447

View attachment 370448

View attachment 370450

View attachment 370451

View attachment 370452
I would just cut straight through the body of that and have it off in minutes
 

Stealaway

Free Member
Jan 8, 2013
8,496
11,541
Dronfield - Derbyshire
Funster No
24,202
MH
Burstner Lyseo 690G
Exp
Happy FLT since 2011
We do know that you are not going to stop a determined toe rag with a cutting disc.
A couple of other devices might just slow them down enough though
 

mick qc

Free Member
Jun 29, 2020
130
94
Preston, UK
Funster No
72,441
MH
boxer L4 H3
Exp
self built and finished
Ive been reading this post all day and trying to do some work as well.
i notice a few have put the lock right through both plates and some just at the front through one as in the YT vid.
i have a boxer and i think it only works through one plate.
so im looking to get the standard lock, hope i`m right and it fits through without being to loose.
i probably need to order and look for washers once it comes,


some on ebay have an expensive delivery charge.

thanks in advance for any advice.

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 

Join us or log in to post a reply.

To join in you must be a member of MotorhomeFun

Join MotorhomeFun

Join us, it quick and easy!

Log in

Already a member? Log in here.

Latest journal entries

Funsters who are viewing this thread

Back
Top