Switzerland in a 4500kg Motorhome (1 Viewer)

[Land Yachties]

Hi all, advice sought. We are currently a few Kilometres south of Geneva in our 4500kg A class motorhome. With all the issues of fuel in France we are considering traveling to Calais via Switzerland, Luxembourg and Belgium. We have 4/5 days in which to do it, so in no rush.
I have tried googling but could not fully understand what is required other than over 3500kg has its own conditions.

We have no knowledge of driving through Switzerland but wonder if anyone is able to confirm the advice we have been give by a help Dutch chap.

As we are 4500kg we need to stop at the customs border control an pay for a 10 day travel permit costing 25CH. Only document required is the vehicles log book.
Thanks in advance.

 

[tacr2man]

Information on toll for vehicles over 3.5 t are available at bazg.admin.ch.

Heavy vehicle charge (performance-related and lump-sum)

www.bazg.admin.ch

 

[Puddleduck]

Land Yachties , your informant was correct. We did this in our van a few years back. Stop at the caisse at the border, take your V5 into the office, fill in a form, pay your money and you are issued a pass and a receipt.

Remember to cross off each day you are in Switzerland on your pass whether you are traveling or not. The pass is valid for a year from issue

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[royandsharont]

I thought you could get a 5 day pass though, not 10.

The days enable full/part calendar days of travel on the motorway so if you did Monday 1200 to Tuesday 0900 that’s 2 days of the pass. Then camp to Friday and set off again Friday becomes day 3. I’m pretty sure it is not days spent in the country as it’s a heavy vehicle tax for driving on the roads not sat on a campsite

 

[Puddleduck]

I thought you could get a 5 day pass though, not 10.

The days enable full/part calendar days of travel on the motorway so if you did Monday 1200 to Tuesday 0900 that’s 2 days of the pass. Then camp to Friday and set off again Friday becomes day 3. I’m pretty sure it is not days spent in the country as it’s a heavy vehicle tax for driving on the roads not sat on a campsite

We asked about that and it is days the vehicle is in Switzerland not days on the road. I think you may now be able to pay online before entering Switzerland but you would need to check this. We found it very simple just to stop at the manned border on the E35.

This sort of makes it clear:

Applicable charge periods​

The following possibilities exist for paying the PSVA:

• Between one and thirty consecutive days
• Ten freely chosen days during a given year*
• Between one and eleven consecutive months
• One year

*In the case of proof of payment for ten freely chosen days, you must independently validate it before entry as well as at the start of each subsequent day the vehicle spends in Switzerland.

The rates can be found in form 15.91 and form 15.92 (available in German, French and Italian).

 

[Feltwell]

No need to stop at the border, you can do it with the Swiss Via app on your phone, it's much easier and quicker - having done both in the past! Oddly, it's cheaper for you being over 3.5t rather than being under, as you can get a pass for a few days whereas below 3.5t you have to get one for a year.

I used the Via app this year, much much better - plus it can be in English, most Swiss forms are in German, French or Italian only.

The pass gives you a QR code that you show in the unlikely event that you're stopped and checked.

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[Barryh]

What Feltwell said is the way to go. Just choose the truck lane if there is one at the border, the non truck lanes usually have much longer queues.

 

[Feltwell]

https://www.bazg.admin.ch/bazg/en/h...-lump-sum-/psva-for-foreign-vehicles/via.html

 

[WESTY66]

We bought a 7 consecutive day pass at the border at mustair, I think it was around €25 we are 5 ton

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[SteveRallye]

Looking at that ourselves unless the fuel problem is resolved. We don't have any maps for thar area, any pointers to the best routes and entry from France and exit would be gratefully appreciated. Just managed to get fuel at local Carafor last week last week in Cavalaire sur Mer @1.75,2days later it was 1.86. So got about 5 hours of motoring in tank.Similar to the Landyatches Post we have 3 weeks to get back to Tunnel.

 

[Land Yachties]

Big thanks to all those people who have responded to my questions. The consensus appears to be what a helpful Dutch chap said. In light of the fuel issues in France I think we will have a steady drive back via Switzerland.
That's the great thing about the motorhome, the ability to change plans as the need arises

 

[Rob Turner]

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[Puddleduck]

If you search for my thread "Quacking Abroad" you can see our route down to and back from Italy. We stayed the French side of The Rhine but you might prefer the German side.

Switzerland is expensive but so beautiful. Just to raise a smile, my dippy sister in law still insists a "Wig Net" is needed to drive in Switzerland. She was convinced we would have a fine as we didn't have a Wig Net even though we told her over and over we were classed as an HGV.

 

[royandsharont]

We asked about that and it is days the vehicle is in Switzerland not days on the road. I think you may now be able to pay online before entering Switzerland but you would need to check this. We found it very simple just to stop at the manned border on the E35.

This sort of makes it clear:

Applicable charge periods​

The following possibilities exist for paying the PSVA:

• Between one and thirty consecutive days
• Ten freely chosen days during a given year*
• Between one and eleven consecutive months
• One year

*In the case of proof of payment for ten freely chosen days, you must independently validate it before entry as well as at the start of each subsequent day the vehicle spends in Switzerland.

The rates can be found in form 15.91 and form 15.92 (available in German, French and Italian).

I read the 10 freely chosen days in a year means you choose the day that you actually put the tyres on the tarmac Puddleduck and hence validate the day on the piece of paper at the start of the day.

I’m certain this is what someone who had used it told me too, which is the opposite to what you were told.

 

[Feltwell]

When I checked it out earlier this year, it was days in the country start to finish, it must include days when you're parked up.

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[Puddleduck]

I read the 10 freely chosen days in a year means you choose the day that you actually put the tyres on the tarmac Puddleduck and hence validate the day on the piece of paper at the start of the day.

I’m certain this is what someone who had used it told me too, which is the opposite to what you were told.

When I checked it out earlier this year, it was days in the country start to finish, it must include days when you're parked up.

Yes, it is days the vehicle is in the country moving or parked up.

 

[JockandRita]

I read the 10 freely chosen days in a year means you choose the day that you actually put the tyres on the tarmac @Puddleduck and hence validate the day on the piece of paper at the start of the day.

Sorry, but that's not the case.

When I checked it out earlier this year, it was days in the country start to finish, it must include days when you're parked up.

Yes, it is days the vehicle is in the country moving or parked up.

And that's how it was back in 2016, with a payment of CHF32 for the 10 x days (in 12 x months) pass.

I like the idea of the App and barcode.

Cheers,

Jock.