Spare gas cannister - does this have to be LPG? (1 Viewer)

[Andy Bramhall]

Hello all,

Just getting to the bottom of last few things in our new(ish) van.

We have a great 26.5 ltr LPG tank and I would like to add a spare cannister in the second space. Just wondered if it would be better to make this something other than LPG in case we are somewhere that LPG is hard to access.

What would people advise? Would an alternative gas tank be hard to fit?

Many thanks for any help you can give,

Andy

 

[Tootles]

Hello all,

Just getting to the bottom of last few things in our new(ish) van.

We have a great 26.5 ltr LPG tank and I would like to add a spare cannister in the second space. Just wondered if it would be better to make this something other than LPG in case we are somewhere that LPG is hard to access.

What would people advise? Would an alternative gas tank be hard to fit?

Many thanks for any help you can give,

Andy

Close to 27 ltr of LPG should be more then sufficient. However, you could fit an electrical storage tank, and fill that up from the mains before leaving home, or even at the camp site.

 

[Andy Bramhall]

What's an electrical storage tank? Thanks

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[MC 55 FUN]

What's an electrical storage tank? Thanks

A battery.

 

[Boringfrog]

That's just crying out for a second refillable gas bottle.

 

[TheBig1]

maybe a NoX cylinder plumbed into the engine intake for a few extra Hp

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[daveandsan]

Just fit another Gaslow LPG Bottle.

 

[Andy Bramhall]

That's just crying out for a second refillable gas bottle.

That's what I thought! But should I just put in another LPG bottle or do u think better to use another kind of gas?

Also was wondering about the effect on payload if it really isn't needed!

 

[The Wino]

Just fill it up when 3/4 used you will still have 9l left (2/3 of a 6kg bottle) why carry around something else. If you are worried take a small butane stove like thttp:// which you can use for outdoor bacon butties

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[Northernraider]

After asking a similar question myself the other day the general consensus was carry two refillable bottles

 

[Boringfrog]

That's what I thought! But should I just put in another LPG bottle or do u think better to use another kind of gas?

Also was wondering about the effect on payload if it really isn't needed!

LPG is the only gas available, get another refilable, the same as already fitted.

 

[Andy Bramhall]

Just fill it up when 3/4 used you will still have 9l left (2/3 of a 6kg bottle) why carry around something else. If you are worried take a small butane stove like thttp:// which you can use for outdoor bacon butties

Which leads to the question - how do you know when it's 3/4 used? There is a pressure guage in the locker but it's hard to read.
Is that going to tell me how much gas is left?
Sorry if this is an obvious question to ask.

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[mitzimad]

weve only got one bottle we can tell when its empty if after 25 mins the kettle hasnt boiled

 

[daveandsan]

Which leads to the question - how do you know when it's 3/4 used? There is a pressure guage in the locker but it's hard to read.
Is that going to tell me how much gas is left?
Sorry if this is an obvious question to ask.

You don't know when it is 3/4 used because gauges on refillable bottles are notoriously useless. That's why I have two bottles, so when one is empty I switch over to the second one.

 

[tonyidle]

Close to 27 ltr of LPG should be more then sufficient. However, you could fit an electrical storage tank, and fill that up from the mains before leaving home, or even at the camp site.

You naughty, naughty, man .

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[Zigisla]

I had the same set up and fitted a calor gas bottle just because I had one. In the 18 months it has been fitted I have never used it as I never run out of gas in the refillable. I have an auto changeover just in case but I do check the un reliable gauge and top up as required. Auto gas can always be found somewhere and if you know you need some just fill up when you find an outlet. That the beauti of refillables.

 

[The Wino]

We have one of the unreliable gagues only one bottle but have never run out. The gague goes to empty when still 1/3 left so we just top up (only one 11kg cylinder. With a set up like yours I would refill after 3 weeks use and see how much a week roughly I was getting through then aim to refill when 1/3 left.

 

[Shrimp]

With a tank that big you really don't need anymore and think of the extra weight, you will probably find that after lugging the extra bottle around for a few months you'll wonder why you've bothered with it!

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[Pausim]

I have a single 14kg refillable. I also have a small calor bottle in reserve but I don't expect to ever use it. When I have done a few refills and learned what the gauge readings actually mean I will probably leave it at home.

 

[Alistair33]

Just do a quick calculation, staying mainly on Aires with no access to electric, so major gas use on fridge, water for two showers a day, and light cooking, we have used an average of 1.5 l per day over eight weeks so far.

That may help give you an idea of how long your current set up will last, in the summer obviously, I'm also wondering how this companion the experience of others?

 

[Andy Bramhall]

Thanks all. We were away in Scotland this Summer staying on campsites with hook-up 80% of the time. So some fridge on gas and some hot water from gas. We used 11 litres in two weeks.

I guess the reason I posted is because we are planning quite a bit of winter camping and some off-site so will need heating from gas which will be much higher consumption.

I guess you guys are right though. We just need to learn how accurate the guage is and make sure we keep filling up!

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[joka250]

Just do a quick calculation, staying mainly on Aires with no access to electric, so major gas use on fridge, water for two showers a day, and light cooking, we have used an average of 1.5 l per day over eight weeks so far.

That may help give you an idea of how long your current set up will last, in the summer obviously, I'm also wondering how this companion the experience of others?

 

[joka250]

We have 2 refillable 11kg cylinders and our usage very similar. With 27.5 litres I can't seethe need for more.

 

[Euphony]

We don't have a tank but carry 2 lightweight bottles and just replace one when empty that way we always have one full.

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[Pausim]

We don't have a tank but carry 2 lightweight bottles and just replace one when empty that way we always have one full.

Have you found an alternative to the Calor Lite? It was the thought of going back to heavies that prompted me to install a refillable system.

 

[WynandJean]

LPG being the most readily available, what other gas would you be considering I wonder?

Wyn

 

[Reallyretired]

Ran one of my alugas bottles right out but the gauge was still reading full. Guess the float had stuck. I normally refill as soon as one bottle gets to 1/4 full on the gauge as then it's nearly empty. Looks like I've blocked the regulator too, possibly crud (technical term) from the bottom of the bottle.

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[Boringfrog]

Thanks all. We were away in Scotland this Summer staying on campsites with hook-up 80% of the time. So some fridge on gas and some hot water from gas. We used 11 litres in two weeks.

I guess the reason I posted is because we are planning quite a bit of winter camping and some off-site so will need heating from gas which will be much higher consumption.

I guess you guys are right though. We just need to learn how accurate the guage is and make sure we keep filling up!

I have two 11kg Gaslow bottles with a manual change-over valve, when one runs out simply turn the other on one, then you know you need to fill up the empty when you next pass a filling station.

 

[Boringfrog]

Looking again at your picture, what does the pipe with the red screw in end go to, Is there a valve attached?

 

[Tootles]

We just need to learn how accurate the guage is and make sure we keep filling up!

I use 6 kg refillable bottles. Roughly speaking, thats 12 ltrs of gas per bottle. One bottle does us a season, which, (the year before last), included one 12 day rally, one four day Bristol Balloon Rally, one four day Malvern rally, and another four day rally in Cheshire, when the fridge, hot water and any heating runs solely on LPG. All our hot water is provided by gas, on or off a hook up.

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