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[jockaneezer]

OK I’ll show my stupidity what’s all that about?

Cartridges of nitrous oxide that are normally used to "power" those squirty cream guns that have replaced a decent blob of clotted or whipped cream in restaurants and cafés, if you inhale the gas (laughing gas) it gives you a high.

 

[Cheshirecat57]

Can i be exempt from the reduced limit in my fully electric car

 

[MattR]

Cartridges of nitrous oxide that are normally used to "power" those squirty cream guns that have replaced a decent blob of clotted or whipped cream in restaurants and cafés, if you inhale the gas (laughing gas) it gives you a high.

And can harm you ... (rarely lethal but it isn't the safe high some folk say it is).

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[The Old Man]

OK I’ll show my stupidity what’s all that about?

The are Nitrous oxide cylinders and are inhaled by younger people and clubbers. People open the canister, transfer the gas into a container (usually a balloon), then inhale from the balloon. Inhaling nitrous oxide directly from the canister is very dangerous because the gas is under such high pressure. It can cause a spasm of the throat muscle and stop a person breathing.

Nitrous oxide slows down your brain and your body's responses, and the effects of the drug varies depending on how much has been inhaled. Taking nitrous oxide can cause: feelings of euphoria, relaxation and calmness. fits of giggles and laughter – hence the nickname 'laughing gas'.

 

[63720]

No one is talking about pollution from tyre debris which is the same at any speed.

 

[MattR]

No one is talking about pollution from tyre debris which is the same at any speed.

Similarly, brake dust.... All vehicles produce both forms of pollution when used.

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[chaser]

Similarly, brake dust.... All vehicles produce both forms of pollution when used.

Is that the brake dust you get by continually braking to keep under the speed limit?

 

[dunnah01]

And the pollution from making new cars - electric cars are still a few years behind ICU engines in terms of pollution from manufacture

 

[MattR]

Is that the brake dust you get by continually braking to keep under the speed limit?

Yes, if you are incapable of using your accelerator properly.

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[RetiredPope]

Can i be exempt from the reduced limit in my fully electric car

Always thought they should have electric only lanes without the reduced speed limit.

 

[RetiredPope]

And the pollution from making new cars - electric cars are still a few years behind ICU engines in terms of pollution from manufacture

Do you have any evidence to support this? I would have thought car companies producing EV's would be using the same technologies and practices they've learnt from ICE cars. Some manufacturers claim higher green credentials for their EV's, e.g. VW and BMW claim their pure EV's are carbon neutral and more sustainable. Although given that all German car makers had software to defeat emissions tests, can we believe them!

 

[MattR]

Do you have any evidence to support this? I would have thought car companies producing EV's would be using the same technologies and practices they've learnt from ICE cars. Some manufacturers claim higher green credentials for their EV's, e.g. VW and BMW claim their pure EV's are carbon neutral and more sustainable. Although given that all German car makers had software to defeat emissions tests, can we believe them!

"No, electric cars they are not zero emissions vehicles. We have seen that although they do not emit CO2 while being driven, they might do it in 3 other stages: during manufacturing, energy production and at the end of their life cycle. In the first case, the need for mining activities to extract the rare earth metals that are used in batteries is very energy consuming and polluting."

Are electric cars really eco-friendly? Maybe not as such much as you think.

Are electric cars (EC) really eco-friendly? They seem to be a great solution to fight climate change and they are even said to have zero emissions. But are they worth it? Is it true that they are harmless to the planet?

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[Minxy]

I Don't know why we don't go back to horses.

Horse sh*t and farts!

 

[Landy Andy]

Emissions free ???

Why don’t people consider where the electricity is coming from and what is done to use it.
They will tell you anything they want to cause change. Change generates money. Money is all the world is really interested in.

 

[bobnick]

I Don't know why we don't go back to horses.

I've got 565 of em in one of my cars so can offer you a few if you want

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[Northernraider]

Emissions free ???

Why don’t people consider where the electricity is coming from and what is done to use it.
They will tell you anything they want to cause change. Change generates money. Money is all the world is really interested in.

The same way vegans discount the damage done to grow all their crap

 

[MattR]

The same way vegans discount the damage done to grow all their crap

Tell us more.

 

[John Barrett]

Yes, if you are incapable of using your accelerator properly.

Or there's no cruise control.

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[Landy Andy]

Cruise doesn’t work in the UK. 80% of people brake as soon as they see a speed camera regardless of what speed they are doing.

Soon it will be all automated and the “art” of driving will die. But some will be happy as they have more control of everything we do.

 

[tonyidle]

Cruise doesn’t work in the UK. 80% of people brake as soon as they see a speed camera regardless of what speed they are doing.

Soon it will be all automated and the “art” of driving will die. But some will be happy as they have more control of everything we do.

When you look at how little effort drivers are prepared to put into improving their abilities you can see that the art died long ago. Most drivers drive as they were taught and make no attempt to learn and improve. It isn't that "they" want to take control: it's just that no other method appears to work.

 

[MattR]

Cruise doesn’t work in the UK. 80% of people brake as soon as they see a speed camera regardless of what speed they are doing.

Soon it will be all automated and the “art” of driving will die. But some will be happy as they have more control of everything we do.

The "art" of driving has been dying for years ... it seems that some folk can't help but drive so close to the vehicle in front that they might as well just hop in the boot and others seem to struggle to drive at the speed limit without having to apply their brakes when they get there. Maybe they should be more control on what drivers do ...

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[John Barrett]

Cruise doesn’t work in the UK. 80% of people brake as soon as they see a speed camera regardless of what speed they are doing.

Soon it will be all automated and the “art” of driving will die. But some will be happy as they have more control of everything we do.

I certainly don't: that's why I use cruise control at every opportunity. Trouble is, I usually have to brake to avoid hitting the numpty in front of me!

 

[Guigsy]

The are Nitrous oxide cylinders and are inhaled by younger people and clubbers. People open the canister, transfer the gas into a container (usually a balloon), then inhale from the balloon. Inhaling nitrous oxide directly from the canister is very dangerous because the gas is under such high pressure. It can cause a spasm of the throat muscle and stop a person breathing.

Nitrous oxide slows down your brain and your body's responses, and the effects of the drug varies depending on how much has been inhaled. Taking nitrous oxide can cause: feelings of euphoria, relaxation and calmness. fits of giggles and laughter – hence the nickname 'laughing gas'.

I see loads of those little silver cylinders scattered all over the place. It was only about a year ago that I realised that they weren't from people repairing their bike tyres...

 

[SpeedyDux]

You asked



More cars result in more pollution.

More people results in more cars too. It's a population problem because people aspire to car ownership and the accompanying status.

Stoosal's post got me thinking - my late dad who was an engineer said that car engines are most efficient at their peak torque revs.

Which makes me think that if you cruise at the peak torque revs the emissions including NOx should be less. Fuel consumption should be optimised (assuming the mechanical and aerodynamic friction is also low) at that cruising speed.

How this fad for turbocharging all those 3 cylinder 1 litre petrol engines is better for harmful emissions like NOx than a well designed 1.6 or 2 litre normally aspirated engine is something I haven't got my head around yet. I can see that the smaller engine would produce less CO2 overall, but that's a separate issue.

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[Guigsy]

Which makes me think that if you cruise at the peak torque revs the emissions including NOx should be less.

When an engine is burning all the fuel efficiently at high load, it's probably running a bit lean. The heat is enough to combine the remaining Oxygen and the Nitrogen in the air into NOx. So even though you're minimising fuel use and CO2 per mile, you can be producing more smog.

 

[gus-lopez]

Always thought they should have electric only lanes without the reduced speed limit.

What like the bike lanes no one uses?

Do you have any evidence to support this? I would have thought car companies producing EV's would be using the same technologies and practices they've learnt from ICE cars. Some manufacturers claim higher green credentials for their EV's, e.g. VW and BMW claim their pure EV's are carbon neutral and more sustainable. Although given that all German car makers had software to defeat emissions tests, can we believe them!

It takes far more to produce an ev than to manufacutre a normal vehicle.just the battery side nearly covers what it takes to produce 1 normal car.This is why it is rarely mentioned

We have seen that although they do not emit CO2 while being driven,

Not exactly true, They are classed in 3 groups as to distance travelled before emissions emitted . I was amazed to read 10 miles was considered good?

• Category 1: Vehicles with a range of 70 miles making zero emissions, and a manufacturer quoted CO2 emissions figure of less than 50g/km.
• Category 2: Vehicles with a range of at least 10 miles making zero emissions, and a manufacturer quoted CO2 emissions figure of less than 50g/km.
• Category 3: Vehicles with a range of at least 20 miles making zero emissions, and a manufacturer quoted CO2 emissions figure of between 50-75g/km.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/tips-advice/94376/what-uk-plug-car-grant

 

[MattR]

What like the bike lanes no one uses?

It takes far more to produce an ev than to manufacutre a normal vehicle.just the battery side nearly covers what it takes to produce 1 normal car.This is why it is rarely mentioned

Not exactly true, They are classed in 3 groups as to distance travelled before emissions emitted . I was amazed to read 10 miles was considered good?

• Category 1: Vehicles with a range of 70 miles making zero emissions, and a manufacturer quoted CO2 emissions figure of less than 50g/km.
• Category 2: Vehicles with a range of at least 10 miles making zero emissions, and a manufacturer quoted CO2 emissions figure of less than 50g/km.
• Category 3: Vehicles with a range of at least 20 miles making zero emissions, and a manufacturer quoted CO2 emissions figure of between 50-75g/km.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/tips-advice/94376/what-uk-plug-car-grant

I may be wrong but I think that the article I cited was referring to electric cars and the one you cited was electric and plug-in hybrids; the latter being the ones where CO2 emissions would occur whilst being driven.

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[Cheshirecat57]

Right…I’m off

 

[gus-lopez]

I may be wrong but I think that the article I cited was referring to electric cars and the one you cited was electric and plug-in hybrids; the latter being the ones where CO2 emissions would occur whilst being driven.

the only vehicles now obtaining the grant are electric.If you look at the bottom of the list all entitled to the grant, wholly electric, are shown there . All are Class 1 &

Category 1: Vehicles with a range of 70 miles making zero emissions, and a manufacturer quoted CO2 emissions figure of less than 50g/km.

 

[MattR]

the only vehicles now obtaining the grant are electric.If you look at the bottom of the list all entitled to the grant, wholly electric, are shown there . All are Class 1 &

Category 1: Vehicles with a range of 70 miles making zero emissions, and a manufacturer quoted CO2 emissions figure of less than 50g/km.

Again, I might be wrong; it isn't an area I am very familiar with but if the vehicle makes zero emissions, what is the manufacturer quoted CO2 emissions of less than 50g/km about?

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