Sign of the times... (1 Viewer)

[SmithsInFrance]

My son just sold his 1993 MH - two people came to view, both worked for NHS and both looking to live in it full-time. First one was a doctor, son talked him out of it because he didn't really have any idea of what he was taking on. Second one was an ambulance driver who was upgrading from living in a panel van with a mattress in the back. Very humbling...

 

[BusyBuilder]

Where was this ?

 

[John.]

That's sad !

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[deleted-member02]

Odd that they can’t access NHS worker accommodation?
The only workers I’ve known to struggle were chronically bad at managing their finances (dare I say irresponsible).
Even porters on £9ph manage to get by.
There must be more to this??

 

[TheBig1]

I know several NHS employees in a precarious housing situation. One springs to mind that his wife kicked him out and it took months of sofa surfing to find somewhere cheap enough and near the hospital. In his 50s and back in a bedsit, but it came close to sleeping in his car more than once

 

[SmithsInFrance]

First one was a junior doctor, didn't meet him but I know they don't earn all that much if they are working (and so living) in London. Second one was working in Putney area, not cheap to rent a place especially for one person.

My son who is now a psychiatrist was a porter for a few months before he started studying medicine and he really struggled renting a room and financing himself. He worked at the cinema p/t as well to get by. That was 10 years ago now.

Don't know the ins and outs of it all, but just struck me that first two people, both NHS, both needing to f/t seemed quite sad.

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[2657]

How anybody even on the national average salary, let alone on minimum wage, manages to rent or buy in London is beyond me

 

[nicholsong]

Yes it can be a struggle in early professional life, maybe more so with student debts.

Even after several years of work and then a BA Co-Pilot on just under £5k p.a. I struggled to get a mortgage for a run-down property near enough to Heathrow.

I am now in a much better position and am renting out my 4-bed, 2 bath house, just west of Putney to two people whose combined income is £175K+.

Obviously this is bigger than their needs, in some people's minds.

However, it only produces 3% net, so if I let it for less I could get more in some banks.

This is not a buy-to-let property, as it was my home, and maybe again if circumstances change.

I do not know what the answer is to this proprty conundrum.

Geoff

 

[Yorick]

If you can't afford to live in an expensive area, move to a cheaper area of the country. Simple economics.

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[vwalan]

its all about choices.
they can leave london ,change their job .
there is plenty of choices to make in life.
does seem some cant make good ones .
lots of immigrants come and get jobs and finance their selves .
easy to think they all scrounge but they dont all.

 

[2657]

If you can't afford to live in an expensive area, move to a cheaper area of the country. Simple economics.

Oh that life was so simple........I wish I lived in your world

 

[tacr2man]

If you can't afford to live in an expensive area, move to a cheaper area of the country. Simple economics.

What about commuting costs and time needed. ? Coz often the jobs are not where the cheaper property is

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[Yorick]

What about commuting costs and time needed. ? Coz often the jobs are not where the cheaper property is

You cut your cloth to suit or whatever the saying is.

Pick somewhere with jobs and cheaper housing. You don't have to work in a big city.

 

[Yorick]

Oh that life was so simple........I wish I lived in your world

My world is simple economics. If you can't afford a situation then change the situation.

 

[2657]

My world is simple economics. If you can't afford a situation then change the situation.

Of course everybody has the capability to do that regardless of the consequences for others.

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[Yorick]

Of course everybody has the capability to do that regardless of the consequences for others.

Oh dear....

 

[Silas]

If you can't afford to live in an expensive area, move to a cheaper area of the country. Simple economics.

Oh. Yes, of course, it's that simple. I really have trouble relating to some of these utterly thoughtless posts. I'm not sure if the poster is a wind up merchant or is really that unaware.

 

[Yorick]

Oh. Yes, of course, it's that simple. I really have trouble relating to some of these utterly thoughtless posts. I'm not sure if the poster is a wind up merchant or is really that unaware.

OK, answer me this question.....

What do you do if you can't afford to live in an expensive area ?

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[Yorick]

OK, answer me this question.....

What do you do if you can't afford to live in an expensive area ?

Stay ? Move ? Moan ?

 

[deleted-member02]

If you can't afford to live in an expensive area, move to a cheaper area of the country. Simple economics.

I know a couple who left the local area and transferred to Manchester. They sold their modest two bed terrace down here and moved into a lovely 4 bed detached up there.
Pay grades are the same throughout NHS and jobs always available if you have the experience.
They were quids in as weren’t being crippled by Southern housing costs...

 

[2657]

Stay ? Move ? Moan ?

Moan.....nothing like a good moan

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[Northernraider]

You didn't state in the op whether or not they had chose to do this ?

I mean there's loads of people living full time in motorhomes and vans these days through choice.

Could it be that perhaps they see it as a cheaper way to live at the minute while they work and get some savings behind them?

 

[Silas]

Odd that they can’t access NHS worker accommodation?
The only workers I’ve known to struggle were chronically bad at managing their finances (dare I say irresponsible).
Even porters on £9ph manage to get by.
There must be more to this??

Would love to know just what NHS worker accommodation is.

 

[Barclaybasher]

My world is simple economics. If you can't afford a situation then change the situation.

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[deleted-member02]

Would love to know just what NHS worker accommodation is.

Residential accomodation often provided by the trust or associated organisations. Not disimilar to student halls of residence.
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[Northernraider]

Would love to know just what NHS worker accommodation is.

My sister lived in nhs accommodation back in the late 80's while training.
Usually shared appartments

 

[Enword]

Residential accomodation often provided by the trust or associated organisations. Not disimilar to student halls of residence.
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What Mrs D & others called living in.

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[deleted-member02]

My sister lived in nhs accommodation back in the late 80's while training.
Usually shared appartments

Yes still same now.
Good for staff as right next to work, no travelling, good for networking, all inclusive fair rent.(£30/night £500/month or thereabouts).
Good for nhs trust as have staff on hand for emergencies and difficult winter weather. Residential staff more willing to do overtime and more likely to ‘muck in’ when required...

 

[Northernraider]

You cut your cloth to suit or whatever the saying is.

Pick somewhere with jobs and cheaper housing. You don't have to work in a big city.

Just aswell that some do though isn't it.
Hate to imagine how even more understaffed the nhs would be in big cities.

It's also worth mentioning that despite many people's opinions often nhs staff struggle financially simply because it isn't all about money for them they actually put in 110% because they care about the people they work with.

My sister for example could earn far more privately or even if she changed location.

It's one of the hardest emotionally draining jobs out there that society often takes for granted and they are seriously undervalued.

 

[Minxy]

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that for junior doctors they have normally to work where the specialities are that they are involved in, or where they are placed for further training etc, so often don't have much choice as to where they work and therefore where they have to have homes as they usually have to be able to get to their workplace within a certain timescale.

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