Shurflo 0227 Straight Swap Replacement? (1 Viewer)

Euphony

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Hi All,
I've been out of the loop for about 6 months as I've been dead twice!(technically)
The Boss and I have come away in our Bessacarr E560 for the first time since summer last year, my brother turned over the engine a few times while I was in hospital.
However, we've arrived on site I filled the water tank, run the system and got water out of taps/shower and toilet with the pump running but the pump has stopped completely, I've checked fuses/connections etc and from what I've read online, I'm as well just swapping the pump rather than fiddling around with it. So, my question (finally) is; can someone please tell me what a straight swap would be as I can't find a Shurflo 0227 (probably obsolete now)?
Thanks in advance.
 
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When we had our E560 I looked into replacing the water pump and bought one of these to carry round as a back up if needed.
Shurflo Trail king Water Pump 2095-204-413
Shurflo trail king 7/12v 30p replacement to 12v 30PSI 7 litre 2095-204-113
Pumps 7 litres / 1.85 gallons per minute
Operates automatically on demand

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Hi All,
I've been out of the loop for about 6 months as I've been dead twice!(technically)
The Boss and I have come away in our Bessacarr E560 for the first time since summer last year, my brother turned over the engine a few times while I was in hospital.
However, we've arrived on site I filled the water tank, run the system and got water out of taps/shower and toilet with the pump running but the pump has stopped completely, I've checked fuses/connections etc and from what I've read online, I'm as well just swapping the pump rather than fiddling around with it. So, my question (finally) is; can someone please tell me what a straight swap would be as I can't find a Shurflo 0227 (probably obsolete now)?
Thanks in advance.
If the pump as stopped completely (with one or more taps open) then the fault is just as likely to be the electrical supply to it as the pump itself - perhaps more likely. You will need to check that first - those pumps rarely die suddenly. I assume you mean the pump motor isn't running when you say "has stopped completely"?
 
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Euphony

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When we had our E560 I looked into replacing the water pump and bought one of these to carry round as a back up if needed.
Shurflo Trail king Water Pump 2095-204-413
Shurflo trail king 7/12v 30p replacement to 12v 30PSI 7 litre 2095-204-113
Pumps 7 litres / 1.85 gallons per minute
Operates automatically on demand

View attachment 298112

Pete
Thank you very much.
 
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Euphony

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If the pump as stopped completely (with one or more taps open) then the fault is just as likely to be the electrical supply to it as the pump itself - perhaps more likely. You will need to check that first - those pumps rarely die suddenly. I assume you mean the pump motor isn't running when you say "has stopped completely"?
Hi,
Thank you, yes the pump motor isn't running. I'll check the fuses etc. after a walk into town and will report back.

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Does yours work via micro switch on the tap or pressure drop at the pump?

Have you checked for continuity on both live and earth at the pump?
 
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Lat year just arrived in France and pump intermittent. Trace to what turned out to be the micro switch. I by-passed switch and switched pump on and off on panel.
The micro switch is an NC type (normally closed) and is switched off when pump is up to pressure. Approx. cost £2.00
I pulled off the terminals and used a 10 amp fuse to link them together.
So I suggest you remove the terminals as shown and join them, if pump works it's the switch which will have corroded on the contacts.
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Does yours work via micro switch on the tap or pressure drop at the pump?

Have you checked for continuity on both live and earth at the pump?
I'm afraid I don't know but will investigate. Thanks.
 
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Thanks for previous responses all.
So far as I can tell the pump has power, when I disconnected power to it then reattached, the pump fired up to fill pressure then stopped, but upon trying 2 taps plus shower plus loo it didn't come on.
It is a pressure drop at pump type.
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I'm now assuming it's a pressure switch failure.

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Almost certainly the micro switch, if you intend you to use the MH perhaps as I suggested earlier, disconnect the 2 terminals and join them, at least you will have a
pump.
Changing switch is relatively easy, new pump should make you happy and repair the current one. The one @Tykatem provided a picture of will replace as fittings and dimensions should be the same.
I can recommend Magnum Motorhomes of Grimsby, good price with free p/p and NEXT DAY delivery.
 
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Almost certainly the micro switch, if you intend you to use the MH perhaps as I suggested earlier, disconnect the 2 terminals and join them, at least you will have a
pump.
Changing switch is relatively easy, new pump should make you happy and repair the current one.
Thank you I appreciate your reply, can you outline, in idiot terms, how I connect them please? We are actually away for a long weekend now so it would help hugely to have a pump.
 
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The 2 red wires are 12v to switch and 12v from switch to motor.
Remove where shown in picture and join, I used a blade fuse (clever hey?)
This by-passes switch and pump will run continuously so switch off on panel or remove fuse.
If pump doesn't work like this then new pump required.
Please let me know how you get on
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The 2 red wires are 12v to switch and 12v from switch to motor.
Remove where shown in picture and join, I used a blade fuse (clever hey?)
This by-passes switch and pump will run continuously so switch off on panel or remove fuse.
If pump doesn't work like this then new pump required.
Please let me know how you get on View attachment 298216
Brilliant! Thank you, I'll need to pop into town and hopefully get some blades fuses, if not, I'll take an "unimportant" one from a fuse box and give it a bash.
I'll report back tomorrow. Thanks again.
 
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The 2 red wires are 12v to switch and 12v from switch to motor.
Remove where shown in picture and join, I used a blade fuse (clever hey?)
This by-passes switch and pump will run continuously so switch off on panel or remove fuse.
If pump doesn't work like this then new pump required.
Please let me know how you get on View attachment 298216
Larby, again, I’d like to thank you for taking the time to answer, so fully; my query.
So, the results are; I used your idiot proof guide and attached the two connectors to a blade fuse (10A) and the pump works, so, micro switch it is, it also drips very sporadically so the diaphragm is knackered too. I’ve ordered a replacement pump (thanks to Tykatem for the model number).
I’ll now order a diaphragm kit and a replacement switch kit, repair it and keep it, as you suggested; for a spare.
So we have running water, hot water and loo flush again.
Thanks also to everyone else that responded.

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