Searching for stamped VIN No. on N&B Arto 2002 chassis (1 Viewer)

Oct 12, 2009
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For registration purposes we need to find the stamped VIN number, not the weight plates which are obvious, on a N&B Arto Fiat 2002 chassis..

Obviously being an 'A' Class it is not in the normal cab footwell etc. We are told that one place for Fiat to stamp is on the engine frame but we cannot find it.

Can anyone help please?

Geoff
 

SandraL

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Not at the van, this from memory........
2013 A class, fiat, lhd, gas locker beside passenger seat, gas locker internal wall has "window" ,looking through can see chassis with vin stamped.
Would be front of step area on standard van.

Ours is obscured by gas cylinders that havent been out for a long long time so hope I remembered correctly.
 
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Oct 12, 2009
10,613
23,580
SW London, Poland and all Europe
Funster No
8,876
MH
A Class N+B Arto 69GL
Exp
Since 2009
Not at the van, this from memory........
2013 A class, fiat, lhd, gas locker beside passenger seat, gas locker internal wall has "window" ,looking through can see chassis with vin stamped.
Would be front of step area on standard van.

Ours is obscured by gas cylinders that havent been out for a long long time so hope I remembered correctly.

Thanks very much.

Before i read your reply N&B Techies answered and the information cross-checks with you description.

We have accessed that 'window' which leads to the wheel arch, but can find no stamped number on that, or is it on the frame above? Exact location, even from your memory would be useful.

Of course it is possible that Fiat did not realise it was a RHD chassis and stamped it on the other wheel arch or frame.

I will have anothe search.

Geoff

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Thanks very much.

Before i read your reply N&B Techies answered and the information cross-checks with you description.

We have accessed that 'window' which leads to the wheel arch, but can find no stamped number on that, or is it on the frame above? Exact location, even from your memory would be useful.

Of course it is possible that Fiat did not realise it was a RHD chassis and stamped it on the other wheel arch or frame.

I will have anothe search.

Geoff
Well I'm impressed with myself!
Sorry cant recall at what angle the vin was visible through window.
 
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We have an A class Fiat and the plate is fastened to the front crossmember in front of the radiator.
 
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8,876
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A Class N+B Arto 69GL
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Since 2009
We have an A class Fiat and the plate is fastened to the front crossmember in front of the radiator.

So is ours, but that is the weight plate but not acceptable for re-registration: they want to see the VIN number stamped into the metal of the chassis.

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All our vans have been stamped in the UK drivers side footwell, current A class has a pull off bit of plastic to view it. Maybe different on a LHD so may be worth checking the UK near side footwell?
 

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Is it not visible at the windscreen bottom edge on the uk passenger side? My ducato 2009 certainly

Not sure TBH as its an A class but I was answering the OP trying to help.

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Oct 12, 2009
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23,580
SW London, Poland and all Europe
Funster No
8,876
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A Class N+B Arto 69GL
Exp
Since 2009
Is it not visible at the windscreen bottom edge on the uk passenger side? My ducato 2009 certainly is
The windscreen and all the front of the vehicle is provided by N&B not FIAT, so any number there, which there is not, would not satisfy the Polish registration authorities - they want the stamped original from the factory.

Geoff
 
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Is it not visible at the windscreen bottom edge on the uk passenger side? My ducato 2009 certainly is
that is just plastic
Would be surprised as it seems most manufacturers of the base vehicles seem use this position as it is difficult to tamper with without replacing the windscreen
Easily changed without windscreen removal after airbags have been set off when they just replace the dash . & usually after they have changed the dash they fail to replace the plastic number from the old one.
The only thing that counts for registration purposes is the one stamped in to the chassis rail somewhere.

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