I have looked through the old threads,, but cannot find one pertaining to my question. After our tour,, And spending a lot of time trying to find the sat in some parts of Europe,, to no avail,, Using a tripod and a 95cm dish.. Do any members have any reccomendations for a small free standing dish that will work and not have to spend ages trying to line up ? Or is there an automatic free standing (Oyster Type) ? That will work in Southern Europe. I had contemplated a self seeking Oyster system,, but am a bit reluctent to drill or make a hole in the rubber roof of our 5er.. Thanks.