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On yer bike - We're very defensive cyclists so don't go any where near busy roads so not cycled in England recently. How will this plan to get people on their bikes work in practice when there are so few safe cycle routes?
 
I see its mentioned as electric bikes in MSM that's not going to burn many calories or stress the cardiovascular system :)
 
We need to invest millions in proper dedicated safe cycle tracks but the big problem is British mentality of motorist versus cycle..Its war between the two.This just doesnt happen in most of Europe..My brother in law is both a cyclist and a motorist,,talk about wearing different hats..When in his car all cyclists are free loading dangerous manics..Off course when cycling its the motorists who are to blame..I will stick to cycling abroad..BUSBY.
 
tacr2man said:
I see its mentioned as electric bikes in MSM that's not going to burn many calories or stress the cardiovascular system :)
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I would beg to differ the data coming out seems to be people buying electric bikes to get back into cycling and as its so easy and so much fun ending up going a lot further than they would otherwise so it gets more use and still burns a fair amount of calories. My wife has an ebike to keep up with Son & I and certainly gets a good workout using it.
 
tacr2man said:
I see its mentioned as electric bikes in MSM that's not going to burn many calories or stress the cardiovascular system :)
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I‘m no expert but I would imagine it will put quite a bit of stress on the cardiovascular system.....especially when it comes to pay for an electric bike.......How much??? 😱😱😱😱

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I bought an ebike as whichever way I go from my house it’s a steep hill. To begin with I needed to use the second level but now I can do them on the first level. When I can get round without a boost I’ll double the circuit and start again. You can still challenge yourself on an ebike it just lets you get out and about. To be honest I don’t care much if people say I’m just sitting there ... I’m doing it for me not for them.
 
The real issue for me is not the type of bike I ride but the safe crossing of the dual carriageway that separates the villages from the town where I work. We’re 8 miles away but a lethal 8 miles. Until there is a safe route cycling has to remain a hobby rather than a commute.
 
busby said:
We need to invest millions in proper dedicated safe cycle tracks but the big problem is British mentality of motorist versus cycle..Its war between the two.This just doesnt happen in most of Europe..My brother in law is both a cyclist and a motorist,,talk about wearing different hats..When in his car all cyclists are free loading dangerous manics..Off course when cycling its the motorists who are to blame..I will stick to cycling abroad..BUSBY.
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I think they should spend the money on teaching cyclists how to use the roads correctly and safely.

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I think I will go into lockdown.

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Borderland said:
I think they should spend the money on teaching cyclists how to use the roads correctly and safely.

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I could add the same for motorists but that would be childish..As i said there is something wrong with British mentality regarding cycling versus motoring..as is reflected in your comment..For some reason its war on our roads between both..This does not happen in Europe. The only answer is to build enough cycle tracks to seperate them from each other because its obvious for some reason they just cant share the same roads,BUSBY.
 
orridge said:
I would beg to differ the data coming out seems to be people buying electric bikes to get back into cycling and as its so easy and so much fun ending up going a lot further than they would otherwise so it gets more use and still burns a fair amount of calories. My wife has an ebike to keep up with Son & I and certainly gets a good workout using it.
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Anybody riding any sort of bike is heading in the right direction.
Phil
 
PhilMary said:
Anybody riding any sort of bike is heading in the right direction.
Phil
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dunnah01 said:
On yer bike - We're very defensive cyclists so don't go any where near busy roads so not cycled in England recently. How will this plan to get people on their bikes work in practice when there are so few safe cycle routes?
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.....great oaks from little acorns grow.

Your're right, it will take a lot to wean people off their habit of reaching for the keys, despite the average journey of 8 miles in the UK.
Got to start somewhere - just got back from a short trip that included Belgium - weathers no better, just as many challenges around carrying stuff, a bit more space for sure, but great to see towns not dominated by vehicles and families, all ages getting about by bike.

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busby said:
I could add the same for motorists but that would be childish..As i said there is something wrong with British mentality regarding cycling versus motoring..as is reflected in your comment..For some reason its war on our roads between both..This does not happen in Europe. The only answer is to build enough cycle tracks to seperate them from each other because its obvious for some reason they just cant share the same roads,BUSBY.
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The answer is educating the ignorant and self-centred motorists.
Phil
 
PhilMary said:
The answer is educating the ignorant and self-centred motorists.
Phil
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There you go its as i said,,its them and us regarding cyclists and motorists in uk..I will save my cycling for France and Spain where both sides get on without road rage,fist shaking and nasty comments about each other..What a strange race we Brits are..BUSBY. (y) (y)
 
Ernesto said:
.....great oaks from little acorns grow.

Your're right, it will take a lot to wean people off their habit of reaching for the keys, despite the average journey of 8 miles in the UK.
Got to start somewhere - just got back from a short trip that included Belgium - weathers no better, just as many challenges around carrying stuff, a bit more space for sure, but great to see towns not dominated by vehicles and families, all ages getting about by bike.
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It will never happen.When lock down started i could not believe the amount of people walking in our area.We have always walked 5 or 6 miles every day for the last 20 years since retiring and had the footpaths and pavements to our selves until march..Its all changed now,,they are back in their cars now even for short 3 and 4 mile journeys..The good intentions didnt last long...Brits dont walk if they can help it generally..Of course there are exceptions..BUSBY.:giggle::giggle:
 
Humans will soon be relieved of the chore of piloting vehicles ...they will be controlled for them and the last, major fallible component will be removed. It won't be possible for the software and computers to lose their rag, speed, lose concentration using a mobile phone, punish-pass slower moving road users etc etc ...that day is much closer than people think.
It will be interesting to see which wins the race and comes first - a cycling infrastructure or autonomous vehicles - but its definitely coming and the technology exists already
 
busby said:
It will never happen.When lock down started i could not believe the amount of people walking in our area.We have always walked 5 or 6 miles every day for the last 20 years since retiring and had the footpaths and pavements to our selves until march..Its all changed now,,they are back in their cars now even for short 3 and 4 mile journeys..The good intentions didnt last long...Brits dont walk if they can help it generally..Of course there are exceptions..BUSBY.:giggle::giggle:
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Cycle sales are through the roof. Safer routes, more awareness about cyclists and cycling and greater emphasis on personal travel will probably result in longer term improvements to fitness and reduce obesity and traffic congestion.

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Mattyjwr said:
Cycle sales are through the roof. Safer routes, more awareness about cyclists and cycling and greater emphasis on personal travel will probably result in longer term improvements to fitness and reduce obesity and traffic congestion.
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Before this Covid happened it was estimated there were two cycles in uk for every household..Didnt see them out much..Think every member of our family own bikes,,not many ride them on a regular basis.There was a big uptake in cycling after our recent Olympic success but mainly its fit young males you see riding. Until we have a network of safe traffic free cycle tracks i cant see it happening..BUSBY..
 
dunnah01 said:
Hate cyclist whilst I'm driving, hate drivers whilst I'm cycling, hate pedestrians all the time..
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Thats the attitude in UK,,BUSBY,,
 
For what its worth I'll throw in my fifteen quids worth, I have been putting up with idiots on two wheels riding in the New Forest for the last 45 years. Lets start with the numerous families on holiday who hire bikes and allow 3 to 4 year olds to ride on roads throughout the forest. Calling them roads is of course being generous, There are three A class roads limited to 60mph in and bordering the forest, but if you were to ride a bike on any one of them there's a good chance it will be your last trip. As for the remaining network of unclassified roads they are for the most part unsuitable for juga-noughts but that doesn't deter hauliers from using them and squeezing past your car while you are trying to avoid spooked horses and three year old kids on bikes. How can these so called parents possibly believe they are not putting their children in danger.
As far as adult cyclist are concerned IMO the majority (not all) have no regard for their own safety which on their part is stupid but that's fine by me provided they don't expect sympathy when they get clobbered. For the life of me I don't understand why they try to make themselves invisible by wearing black. If you are one of those in the minority who wear high visibility then I applaud you, even our horses wear hi viz collars which is better than nothing.
If you drive as well as ride I'm sure you must agree it makes sense to be seen and not heard giving abuse. When it comes to passing so called organised cycling clubs riding fifty strong all in a line sometime two and three a breast well words fail me. Just as a matter of interest I wonder how many cyclist have third party insurance, the reason I mention this is there was a case a year or so back when a cyclist was ordered to pay in excess of £100,000 for causing serious injury. Finally when you're peddling along under your own power don't think for one minute your going green, just look behind you and see all those vehicles being held up by you polluting the atmosphere

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I have travel a lot in the continent especially Holland. I think that there is more respect for cyclist there as they respect the cars as well. In the UK a lot (not all) cyclist think the highway code is optional. This frustrates drivers so they give them less respect.

In Holland you will not see cyclist going through red lights.
 
orridge said:
I would beg to differ the data coming out seems to be people buying electric bikes to get back into cycling and as its so easy and so much fun ending up going a lot further than they would otherwise so it gets more use and still burns a fair amount of calories. My wife has an ebike to keep up with Son & I and certainly gets a good workout using it.
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If it wasn't for the ebike I wouldn't go out at all. And you do still have to pedal - the bike is much heavier and harder work when you don't have the motor on but it's great for giving a boost up hills. I am economical with the motor and tend only to use it when I get tired or to get up hills.

We have done a few traffic free routes (I love old railway line cycle routes) and we did the Great Western Greenway end to end and back when we were in Eire. I think it is 40 miles each way - we did it over 2 days :) and the battery was almost flat at end of the second day. My bum hated me. We also did part of the Southern Greenway which is a lovely ride. I'd like to go back and do the complete length one day.
 
wotme said:
For what its worth I'll throw in my fifteen quids worth, I have been putting up with idiots on two wheels riding in the New Forest for the last 45 years. Lets start with the numerous families on holiday who hire bikes and allow 3 to 4 year olds to ride on roads throughout the forest. Calling them roads is of course being generous, There are three A class roads limited to 60mph in and bordering the forest, but if you were to ride a bike on any one of them there's a good chance it will be your last trip. As for the remaining network of unclassified roads they are for the most part unsuitable for juga-noughts but that doesn't deter hauliers from using them and squeezing past your car while you are trying to avoid spooked horses and three year old kids on bikes. How can these so called parents possibly believe they are not putting their children in danger.
As far as adult cyclist are concerned IMO the majority (not all) have no regard for their own safety which on their part is stupid but that's fine by me provided they don't expect sympathy when they get clobbered. For the life of me I don't understand why they try to make themselves invisible by wearing black. If you are one of those in the minority who wear high visibility then I applaud you, even our horses wear hi viz collars which is better than nothing.
If you drive as well as ride I'm sure you must agree it makes sense to be seen and not heard giving abuse. When it comes to passing so called organised cycling clubs riding fifty strong all in a line sometime two and three a breast well words fail me. Just as a matter of interest I wonder how many cyclist have third party insurance, the reason I mention this is there was a case a year or so back when a cyclist was ordered to pay in excess of £100,000 for causing serious injury. Finally when you're peddling along under your own power don't think for one minute your going green, just look behind you and see all those vehicles being held up by you polluting the atmosphere
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The cars would not be held up much behind club cyclists in the New Forest where to me 20 mph is plenty fast enough with the narrowness of the roads and the ponies and cattle..BUSBY.
 
wotme said:
For what its worth I'll throw in my fifteen quids worth, I have been putting up with idiots on two wheels riding in the New Forest for the last 45 years. Lets start with the numerous families on holiday who hire bikes and allow 3 to 4 year olds to ride on roads throughout the forest. Calling them roads is of course being generous, There are three A class roads limited to 60mph in and bordering the forest, but if you were to ride a bike on any one of them there's a good chance it will be your last trip. As for the remaining network of unclassified roads they are for the most part unsuitable for juga-noughts but that doesn't deter hauliers from using them and squeezing past your car while you are trying to avoid spooked horses and three year old kids on bikes. How can these so called parents possibly believe they are not putting their children in danger.
As far as adult cyclist are concerned IMO the majority (not all) have no regard for their own safety which on their part is stupid but that's fine by me provided they don't expect sympathy when they get clobbered. For the life of me I don't understand why they try to make themselves invisible by wearing black. If you are one of those in the minority who wear high visibility then I applaud you, even our horses wear hi viz collars which is better than nothing.
If you drive as well as ride I'm sure you must agree it makes sense to be seen and not heard giving abuse. When it comes to passing so called organised cycling clubs riding fifty strong all in a line sometime two and three a breast well words fail me. Just as a matter of interest I wonder how many cyclist have third party insurance, the reason I mention this is there was a case a year or so back when a cyclist was ordered to pay in excess of £100,000 for causing serious injury. Finally when you're peddling along under your own power don't think for one minute your going green, just look behind you and see all those vehicles being held up by you polluting the atmosphere
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I see re-education is urgently need on this post.
See above.
Phil
 
Borderland said:
I think they should spend the money on teaching cyclists how to use the roads correctly and safely.

:reel:
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That’s not going to happen as most cyclists don’t have enough brain cells to learn.

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