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For those of us who are new to mh's and were unaware of the swift damp problem, what models and years were affected
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That'll be the category that Rita and I fit into then Paul, and why do you think that is?
When looking for our first MH, as ex tuggers, we had always admired the Swift styles and designs. Imagine to our horror, that with the aid of a damp meter, our search for our dream MH found four Swifts, all suffering from damp, prevalent in exactly the same place in all models.
One couple had just paid Broonfools for a habitation and damp test before putting their pride and joy up for sale. Isn't is strange how I, a complete novice, (but knew where to look) managed to find damp in their lovingly cared for MH. I felt really sorry for them, when I showed them the reading on the meter, and my wet finger from the source.
Remember Russell's (Rapide561) fiasco with his Swift MH which he was fulltiming in? It wasn't damp related, but the faults were horrendous.
We feel that the above discoveries and knowledge justify us being in the "never have and never will own a swift" brigade.
Best regards,
Jock & Rita ( owners of a 12 year old foreign built MH).
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For those of us who are new to mh's and were unaware of the swift damp problem, what models and years were affected
...and where should i be poking my finger...???
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Oh and BTW,
Will some one please answer my question, especially all the so called swift damp experts.
Why has no one had a go at Marquis?
I recon for 6 years, at £200 a service, they owe the OP £1200, because they obviously aint been doing it properly?
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Having been given the choice of having the m/h collected and delivered back to us or we could deliver it ourselves to the factory near Hull we opted to both deliver it and collect it again with Swift paying for our overnight accommodation and all expenses each time.
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You can consider yourselves lucky, our experience was totally opposite, our motorhome was collected by Swift on a recall from our home in London and taken to Hull for repair. On completion we were informed it was ready for collection from Hull no option of delivery. On asking we were told it would be at our expense totally, they would offer nothing either for hotel, train or fuel. This was on a Swift recall remember.
They would offer no further guarantee on the repair only the remaining months of existing guarantee. Our dealer when told offered a good part exchange deal without even seeing the van, and said Swift could deliver it back to them, needless to say the replacement was not a Swift.
What you say is true Paul,the problem lays with Marquis :thumb: who can then get onto Swift who admit they made it wrong If it were me I would have them in court Monday :thumb:Oh and BTW,
Will some one please answer my question, especially all the so called swift damp experts.
Why has no one had a go at Marquis?
I recon for 6 years, at £200 a service, they owe the OP £1200, because they obviously aint been doing it properly?
:thumb: let the dealer sort out problem with Swift :thumb:I did suggest the OP sued Swift and the Dealer.
He has to sue the dealer as that is who the contract is with.
You would like to think that even the threat of legal action and such negative publicity would be enough for Swift and the dealer to put their heads together and come up with a solution.:thumb:
Give them chance to answer-why pay subs? they could have done it for zero cost on the free postsThis is a first post and no more comments since from the OP
Do I smell a troll?
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This is a first post and no more comments since from the OP
Do I smell a troll?
Oh dear! My message seems to have been taken the wrong way in many cases.
I will try to clarify some points raised.
1. This may be my first post to this forum - so what!. This is the first time I have had something to contribute.
2. I have posted about this matter on the SwiftTalk forum prior to informing this forum of my warnings. No where else - yet!
3. My post was essentially a warning about damp checks and advising that they are not to be relied upon.
4. The problems I have encountered with Swift was meant as background information outlining my reasons for the warning.
5. As stated in my original post - Marquis contacted Swift on my behalf but they refused to act as the warranty had expired. Swift offered to repair the vehicle when I contacted them but that was after the vehicle had been repaired.
6. The prospect of taking legal action isn't viable against Marquis - the damage was below floor level initially so there was no where to stick the damp meter probe.
7. Statements have been made about my honesty and reasons for making the post. I can assure you that I am totally honest - another ex-copper having served 30 years dedicated to public service.
I appreciate the concern offered and the comments made.
But we didn't look at "one" Swift Paul, we looked at "four", and "all four" suffered the same problems!But here's the issue.
I have 2 friends, (well more than that of course but you know what I mean) 1 purchased a very expensive Burstner, you know the one. After 6 months due to inept build quality it ended up with them having to threaten action in order to have their big expensive Burstner.
So would I now not buy a Burstner? No chance, I would have one tomorrow, Although Ive never owned one, I wouldn't slate them on his experience.
other friend owned an Autotrail, after over 2 years of taking it back to the dealer, it finally went back to Hull to have the floor completely replaced.
Would I not buy and Autotrail? Yep I would have one of them tomorrow.
Our industry is full of shit products that either don't work or go wrong. I love it when an oven breaks down on a Swift, you get posters stating " bloody Swift" despite it being an oven from Dometic or someone else. Fridge blows up? thats swift;s fault. Fridge blows up on a Hymer? that's dometic's fault.
So we have a choice, we stop buying inept products, and that would mean approx 90% of the motorhome market gets no business, the other 10% goes to Frankia.
However, I like motorohoming, and I have come accustomed to what ever I buy likely to have problems, I carry a tool kit in my van and I bet most of you do. In a way, despite the cost I enjoy the odd trivial repair, today it's rattly blinds that need repairing.
The cost? is worth it in my opinion, for the enjoyment I get from it.
If I wanted a hassle free life I would not be a Motorhomer, END OF.
And unfortunately Jim, due to suspicions re his dilemma, he goes on to add Wish I had kept quiet now - I'm reverting to 'lurking mode' again.Scotjimland said:Long running thread on the darkside.. where he has responded..
can'y give a link. but find it with a Google search : "cotswoldman swift forum"
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Oh dear! My message seems to have been taken the wrong way in many cases.
I will try to clarify some points raised.
1. This may be my first post to this forum - so what!. This is the first time I have had something to contribute.
2. I have posted about this matter on the SwiftTalk forum prior to informing this forum of my warnings. No where else - yet!
3. My post was essentially a warning about damp checks and advising that they are not to be relied upon.
4. The problems I have encountered with Swift was meant as background information outlining my reasons for the warning.
5. As stated in my original post - Marquis contacted Swift on my behalf but they refused to act as the warranty had expired. Swift offered to repair the vehicle when I contacted them but that was after the vehicle had been repaired.
6. The prospect of taking legal action isn't viable against Marquis - the damage was below floor level initially so there was no where to stick the damp meter probe.
7. Statements have been made about my honesty and reasons for making the post. I can assure you that I am totally honest - another ex-copper having served 30 years dedicated to public service.
I appreciate the concern offered and the comments made.
am thinking of going in LURKING MODE AS WELLBut we didn't look at "one" Swift Paul, we looked at "four", and "all four" suffered the same problems!
I like Fords Paul, but if I looked at four Mondeos in search for replacement car, and all suffered the same problem, I wouldn't be looking at any more, and there are a damn site more Ford Mondeos in this world, than there are Swift MHs.
And unfortunately Jim, due to suspicions re his dilemma, he goes on to add Wish I had kept quiet now - I'm reverting to 'lurking mode' again.
That is a shame. :Sad:
Regards,
Jock.
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Long running thread on the darkside.. where he has responded..
can'y give a link. but find it with a Google search : "cotswoldman swift forum"
If we are only talking about the occasional rogue vehicle then why any reluctance to guarantee all vehicles. They have nothing to lose, just the odd return for de-rogueing and everyone is happy. Doesn't equate in my mind.:Sad:Haganap makes a fair point - [HI]you are bound to get rogue vehicles.[/HI]
It's the same with cars . I have had new BMW's that have been full of faults and others that were faultless.
The problem that the British manufacturers have though is that the faults are somehow expected. That's awful.
Same with Bailey - free 10 year warranty- now withdrawn.
What message does that send to a punter with money to spend?
It means I wouldn't buy a Bailey for starters.
If we are only talking about the occasional rogue vehicle then why any reluctance to guarantee all vehicles. They have nothing to lose, just the odd return for de-rogueing and everyone is happy. Doesn't equate in my mind.:Sad:
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Go to your local County court and ask
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With diesel rapidly heading towards £6.00 a gallon the amount involved can put quite a crimp on someones purse, especially if that someone is on a fixed income as is so often the case with motorhomers
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By my calculations diesel is already well past £6 per gallon.
4.54 litres to a gallon. £1.41 per litre x 4.54 = £6.41 per gallon
3.8 litres - 1 gallon ! = £5-38 aprox and thats enough
Peter
that's an American gallon Peter
4.54 lt to 1 UK gal
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