Road tax

Jan 29, 2014
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if I buy a car with road tax on until feb 2015 will it still count after Oct 1st.
But if I buy after the 1st Oct the tax is returned to the seller.
 
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Aug 10, 2013
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If you buy before Oct 1st, any remaining road tax can be transferred with the vehicle and will be valid until expiry.

Steve
 
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laurieash
Jan 29, 2014
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Thanks for that was not sure how it worked,
goverment going to make a lot of cash. In half month tax renewels.
 
Aug 10, 2013
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It seems to me that as the system is now entirely electronic, they could quite easily make it so that road tax runs from any date in a month, rather than the start of a month, and hence the new owner wouldn't have to pay for part of a month they weren't using. MOT certificates work this way, why can't road tax be the same from Oct 1st?

The only reason I can think of for not doing it is as you say, that they will get extra revenue. There are over half a million used car sales per month in the UK, I make that very roughly 120 million quid extra revenue per year.

Steve
 

Geo

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Jul 29, 2007
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Dont forget there will be a double loss ie buyer and seller so you can double your estimate.
Then add insult to injury as the original seller will be buying again
I make that about £360 million:eek:
 
Aug 10, 2013
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Dont forget there will be a double loss ie buyer and seller so you can double your estimate.
Yes, I'd allowed for that; it's effectively one month's extra revenue per sale - the buyer loses part of the month and the seller loses the rest.

But either way, it's still an injustice.

Steve
 
Nov 18, 2011
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It seems to me that as the system is now entirely electronic, they could quite easily make it so that road tax runs from any date in a month, rather than the start of a month, and hence the new owner wouldn't have to pay for part of a month they weren't using. MOT certificates work this way, why can't road tax be the same from Oct 1st?

The only reason I can think of for not doing it is as you say, that they will get extra revenue. There are over half a million used car sales per month in the UK, I make that very roughly 120 million quid extra revenue per year.

Steve
it is another stealth tax
 

vwalan

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Sep 23, 2008
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but only if you keep selling your vehicles . even then if we all go classic m,homing the tax is free. and pre60 no mot . seems thats the way forward .
 
Sep 29, 2012
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It seems to me that as the system is now entirely electronic, they could quite easily make it so that road tax runs from any date in a month, rather than the start of a month, and hence the new owner wouldn't have to pay for part of a month they weren't using. MOT certificates work this way, why can't road tax be the same from Oct 1st?

The only reason I can think of for not doing it is as you say, that they will get extra revenue. There are over half a million used car sales per month in the UK, I make that very roughly 120 million quid extra revenue per year.

Steve
Same reason you dont get any change from a parking meter
 
Jul 3, 2008
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but only if you keep selling your vehicles . even then if we all go classic m,homing the tax is free. and pre60 no mot . seems thats the way forward .
you can rest assured if we did that then the rules would be changed, look what happened after they persuaded people to but diesel powered vehicles the cost of diesel went above that of petrol
 

vwalan

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Sep 23, 2008
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then we have to change again . just use the rules as they change . but dont break them .
 

tambo

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Jun 21, 2014
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but only if you keep selling your vehicles . even then if we all go classic m,homing the tax is free. and pre60 no mot . seems thats the way forward .
Yep the started that tax free idea in 1997 and stopped it again in 1998 when the realisation of how many classic cars were on the road hence 1973 was the last year of tax free

Road tax is a stealth tax through and through .....It was originally supposed to fund maintenance and construction of new roads .......that didn't happen so they changed its name to vehicle excise duty and linked it to emissions but again that's a false move as a 10 tonne truck is cheaper to tax than the average 20 litre diesel car

It's just a tax ...nothing more nothing less

We are taxed on most things 3 of 4 times
 
Jul 23, 2013
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I heard on the radio the other day that if you pay by direct debit they're going to charge an extra 5% (n)
 
Aug 10, 2013
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Yep the started that tax free idea in 1997 and stopped it again in 1998 when the realisation of how many classic cars were on the road hence 1973 was the last year of tax free
Classic car exemption is effectively on a "rolling" basis again, for all vehicles 40 or more years old.

Steve
 

tambo

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Jun 21, 2014
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Is it ?

Ah ok I wasn't aware they had reintroduced it

Always thought under the new scheme it was a joke as the want to get rid of older more polluting vehicles ......yet give the worst offenders free status lol
 
Aug 7, 2013
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I'm a newbie bought our first motorhome 7months ago and love it
are you able to claim the outstanding tax back when you sell ?
 

tambo

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I'm actually amazed at how many people are completely unaware that this change is happening .....considering its happening from next month outside of car clubs , online forums etc no one seems aware of it .....I've mentioned it to several people at work and family members etc and they hadn't heard anything about it
 
Sep 26, 2007
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I remember a funster saying that when the new system comes out you could sorn your motorhome when you were outside UK then tax it again before you came home. Would this be legal?

Ginny
 
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