Road Fund in USA question

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  1. ceejayt

    ceejayt Funster Life Member

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    Hi

    This might save me a complicated call to DVLA if one of you happens to know the answer...

    We are shipping our motorhome to the USA for 6 months from April 10th. It leaves from Antwerp to Baltimore and will return early October.

    I am SORNing our two cars for the 6 months but what about the motorhome - does it need to have valid RFL whilst in the USA?

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    Chris
     
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    The DVLA will almost certainly say it needs to be taxed, insured and MOT'd as SORN is only supposed to be relevant if the vehicle is in the UK. Assuming you will be taking out insurance in the USA I would SORN it as soon as it was at the port. I certainly wouldn't ask the DVLA or give them any information you don't need to. This is an issue that affects many overland motorcyclists and one the DVLA do not have a satisfactory answer for.
     
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    ceejayt Funster Life Member

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    Yes, separate insurance arranged in the US and suspended here for the period. Car insurance changed to third party fire and theft as well. Just trying to avoid any unnecessary expense
     
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    Hi Chris @ceejayt

    We be considered this a few times but got no further than the research. I don't know for certain but I would sorn it, there's not too much chance of being caught on camera.

    I'm hoping your going to be posting plenty about your experience s, particularly interested in the process at us customs. What mh do you have?

    Jon
    BTW reading this while motorhoming in new Zealand.
     
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    ceejayt Funster Life Member

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    Will be posting most days - if you want to know the procedure for the VISAS that;'s on my blog already here and you will be able to track me on a map day by day.

    Very jealous of you being in NZ - been several times but working - brilliant country.

    Chris
     
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    Thanks

    Its your experiences of getting the vehicle in I'm interested in.

    Jon

    Yes NZ is great for motorhoming, lots of great places, many of them free.
     
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    Be carefull not to leave easily stolen items in the van when the exporters have it.
    There is a good chance it will be left unlocked on a dockside UK or USA
     
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    Chris please excuse the cheeky qusetion but how much is it costing to ship a moho to the states?
     
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    Got that covered - had extra locks fitted on the garage which they won't have keys for after it has been through customer and we have a sliding door between lounge and bedroom area which also locks with a key which they also won't have. Anything in the front area of any value will be in the garage or bedroom area and there will be ni expensive electronics as we are taking them with us.

    They can steal our cutlery and plates if they want to :)
     
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    It is solely based on metric volume and is around €44 per cubic metre so for ours which is 9m by say 2.5m by 3,5m then around €3,300 then about €600 in other bits and bats. You can then decide whether or not to insure the vehicle for total loss at sea (0.9% of the value)

    Hope that helps
     
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    ceejayt Funster Life Member

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    Will be sure to let you know
     
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    YOU WILL BE STOPPED many, many times by police who do not know where GB is and think you are another out of state traveler. They will be really confused seeing the steering on the Right. might just shoot you as a potential terrorist.
     
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    Thank you - that is very clear - needs to remain taxed and insured - might see if I can drop that to third party as it will already be fully comp in the USA
     
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    ceejayt Funster Life Member

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    What a cheerful soul and such positive thinking :):)

    Have two stickers ready to put on the back of the motorhome depending on which state we are in...

    1. Trump is an arsehole, and

    2. Trump will make America great again

    We should get away with it
     
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    This unfortunately is where there is a gap which cannot be plugged. UK insurance is not valid in the US so it would be invalid as soon as the vehicle goes out of the country. There is a technical offence immediately if a vehicle is not insured and not SORN. If it's not insured the only other option is to SORN it, which as you've pointed out does not apply unless the vehicle is in the UK. Hence a catch 22 situation. There is no reciprocal arrangement with the US (as there is within Europe) so road fund licence, UK mot and UK insurance mean nothing in the US. The best we can do is comply with whatever the US require to be legal in the US and tell the DVLA it's on SORN. What's the worst that can happen? What I certainly wouldn't do is highlight my intentions to the DVLA. There are reams and reams of posts about this on some motorbike forums where riders take their bikes all over the world for extended periods and the general consensus is tell the DVLA nothing, SORN it and make sure it's legal in the countries you are going to. In this case it's up to the OP to do whatever they feel comfortable with but I know what I'd do.
     
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    Seems to me the absolute safest bet is to not tell the DVLA anything, keep it insured and taxed - at least no problem when I drive it out of the docks again in October
     
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    How will it be searched for contraband and drugs at US customs ?
    I doubt very much a locked door will stop them.
    Different scenario but our luggage went on a second holiday when we flew back to Heathrow.
    We were advised to hand any keys to customs so the cases could be rifled through searched if and when they hit British soil.
    We refused, the cases where eventually couriered to us at home.....with the padlocks cut off and thrown inside.
    Customs have a law unto themselves.
     
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    Hi Ceejayt is that figure a return price ? ,, thanks
     
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    ceejayt Funster Life Member

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    Each way I'm afraid

    Still a lot cheaper than 6 monrhs hire plus you have all your own stuff and a vehicle you know and trust.
     
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