Renewing C1 over 70

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I found this on the DVLA website, it says that at the moment because of Covid-19 you do not have to provide a medical Report D4 When you renew a C1 because of reaching 70. Has anyone done this and is it true, or have I missed something or ended up on the wrong page?

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Renew your driving licence if you're 70 or over

Renew your driving licence online if you're 70 or over. Use form D46P to apply by post
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Renew your driving licence if you're 70 or over

You cannot use this service to renew a C1 (medium-sized vehicles) or D1 (minibus) entitlement - you must do this by post.

That link (I didn't manage to preserve it as a link here) for renewing a C1 takes you to this page:

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Renew or change a lorry or bus licence

Driving licence renewals - find out when and how to renew your lorry, bus, minibus or coach licence.
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Renew or change a lorry or bus licence

If you’re 45 or over
Because of coronavirus (COVID-19), you currently do not need to provide a medical report (form D4) to apply to renew your licence.
If your application is successful, you’ll get a 1 year licence.
 
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Have a read here👍

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No need for C1 medical for 12 months

I will be 70 in april this year, so I applied for the D4 form for a medical exam because our motorhome is a 4000Kg A class. Recieved it over weekend and today phoned our doctor to make an appointment. Twenty minutes later I was told that I would not be able to have an examination in the near...
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rb62 said:
Have a read here👍

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No need for C1 medical for 12 months

I will be 70 in april this year, so I applied for the D4 form for a medical exam because our motorhome is a 4000Kg A class. Recieved it over weekend and today phoned our doctor to make an appointment. Twenty minutes later I was told that I would not be able to have an examination in the near...
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The extension does not apply to C1 licenses that expire this year, it ended on the 31/12/2020. I believe there are still some special rules that apply to profession HGV/Coach drivers but not to those of us with grandfather/grandmother rights.

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Pausim said:
The extension does not apply to C1 licenses that expire this year, it ended on the 31/12/2020. I believe there are still some special rules that apply to profession HGV/Coach drivers but not to those of us with grandfather/grandmother rights.
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I am not speaking of the extension to C1 licences, I know that has ended. I am asking about the statement on the DVLA website that for now you don't need a medical report to extend your C1 past 70. Different question.
 
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EdwardFT said:
I am not speaking of the extension to C1 licences, I know that has ended. I am asking about the statement on the DVLA website that for now you don't need a medical report to extend your C1 past 70. Different question.
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That's only for bus and lorry drivers.
 
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rb62 said:
That's only for bus and lorry drivers.
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that's why I am asking, because if you go to the DVLA site, on the page for renewing a licence after 70, it says "You cannot use this service to renew a C1 (medium-sized vehicles) or D1 (minibus) entitlement - you must do this by post." and that is a link to the page that I quoted, which says that you don't need a medical report for now. So logically that applies to people renewing a C1 licence because of age.

I am asking the question because I suspect that DVLA is not as logical as I am and they don't mean what they say, they mean what they had in mind when they wrote it.

However it is a bit strange if you can renew an HGV licence without a medical, but not a C1 licence.
 
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Their only concession for the C1 was the extension that ended on 32/12/2020.

To retain your C1 after 70 you need a medical and send both forms by post👍

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EdwardFT said:
However it is a bit strange if you can renew an HGV licence without a medical, but not a C1 licence.
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At a guess it is because HGV drivers have regular medicals and are a lot younger in most cases. whereas we have not had a medical related to our driving license in most cases EVER!
so a years extension to a HGV driver is considerably less risky than at 70 and first medical.

just a guess though to be honest.
 
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Phill D said:
At a guess it is because HGV drivers have regular medicals and are a lot younger in most cases. whereas we have not had a medical related to our driving license in most cases EVER!
so a years extension to a HGV driver is considerably less risky than at 70 and first medical.

just a guess though to be honest.
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You may be right about that.

In short, there is an inconsistency in the DVLA website.
On the one hand, looking up renewal at 70 with C1 takes you to this page that says no medical report for the moment.
On the other hand, that page says it is for drivers of lorries and buses.
One of those (at least) is wrong. Is it that the link for renewal at 70 with C1 should not have taken you to that page because it is not right for that situation? Or is it that the writer of that page was using the phrase "lorry or bus licence" loosely to mean any licence over 3500kg that needs a medical?

That is my question and I don't see how to find the correct answer except by calling DVLA (I can feel the will to live draining away), or finding someone who has done it. Hence my question here.
 
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when i applied back in August;

you could renew without the C1 on line and takes a week or so and then when things settle get your medical and get your C1 added back. but as far as i could ascertain you could not drive anything over 3.5T so defeats the object.

you can download the D4 medical form and arrange a medical and then send the D4 and license application D2 i think ( available at some post offices but try and get the most up to date version).

you can then continue to drive C1 under section 88 until your renewal come through or DVLA say stop.
 
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If you scroll down the page you should find 'similar threads' the one I quoted first is there 👍
 
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My wife has just booked her medical with D4Drivers at £55 so I guess she must need it.

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rb62 said:
If you scroll down the page you should find 'similar threads' the one I quoted first is there 👍
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Thanks for keeping at it, but not on my browser it isn't. I think I get the idea though. DVLA's web site authors have not kept consistency in mind. When discussing renewal of C1 they have sent readers to a page that is probably not about C1. Oh well, am I surprised?
 
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EdwardFT said:
In short, there is an inconsistency in the DVLA website.
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EdwardFT said:
Different question.
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I don’t think so. I have have recently renewed my license and you need D2 and D4 forms to keep your C1 entitlement. The first link you gave refers to standard renewals at 70 and it says “You cannot use this service to renew a C1 (medium-sized vehicles) or D1 (minibus) entitlement - you must do this by post.”
The second link is for bus and lorry drivers.
 
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Pausim said:
I don’t think so. I have have recently renewed my license and you need D2 and D4 forms to keep your C1 entitlement. The first link you gave refers to standard renewals at 70 and it says “You cannot use this service to renew a C1 (medium-sized vehicles) or D1 (minibus) entitlement - you must do this by post.”
The second link is for bus and lorry drivers.
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I agree and disagree... indeed as you say the second page says that it is for bus and lorry drivers. But my whole point was that that is where the link on the first page "to renew a C1" takes you to, so it should include renewing a C1, or else it shouldn't take you there "to renew a C1".
 
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EdwardFT said:
I agree and disagree... indeed as you say the second page says that it is for bus and lorry drivers. But my whole point was that that is where the link on the first page "to renew a C1" takes you to, so it should include renewing a C1, or else it shouldn't take you there "to renew a C1".
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It does cover renewing a C1 if you are a lorry driver.
 
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From the thread you can't find a quote from a HGV driver

Only HGV licences (above 7500kg) are being renewed with out a medical for one year,they have other forms as well.

'I received my d4 /d48 and a Voch1 forms today
i rang Dvla and was told that if my doctor is not doing Medical’s , to fill out the voch1 and d48 forms and return them to the Dvla , d4 not required to be retuned
the voch1 form is basically asking any change to your condition and you giving the Dvla consent to to see your doctors records'
 
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Phill D said:
At a guess it is because HGV drivers have regular medicals and are a lot younger in most cases. whereas we have not had a medical related to our driving license in most cases EVER!
so a years extension to a HGV driver is considerably less risky than at 70 and first medical.

just a guess though to be honest.
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I would guess it’s because there are a lot of older hgv drivers and if they stopped issuing licenses it would cause problems in the logistics industry and shortages, so they gave a years grace to ease that. Just my guess, but it’s usually money, haha.
 
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Pausim said:
Just fill in the D2/D4 forms. I posted just before Christmas and got my new license in less than a month.
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I know, I know, just do it. I am hoping to be able to come back to the UK to get the medical before my licence runs out. Meantime the idea of temporarily not needing a medical gave me hope that it would be easier.
 
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rb62 said:
From the thread you can't find a quote from a HGV driver

Only HGV licences (above 7500kg) are being renewed with out a medical for one year,they have other forms as well.

'I received my d4 /d48 and a Voch1 forms today
i rang Dvla and was told that if my doctor is not doing Medical’s , to fill out the voch1 and d48 forms and return them to the Dvla , d4 not required to be retuned
the voch1 form is basically asking any change to your condition and you giving the Dvla consent to to see your doctors records'
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I am renewing C1 entitlement and on form D2 it says to tick for C1/D1 entitlement but this does not include C1E or D1E and the next section is to renew or surrender Lorry then another box Bus. I understand not qualified bus but they describe everything as ‘Application for a lorry, bus or minibus D2’ and doesn’t include specifically over 3.5t up to 7.5t so do we come under ’Lorry’ in which case next section needs ticking? As said before DVLA not clear at all. Any help appreciated.
Have D2 form but what is the D48 , please.rb62@

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Rapphil said:
I am renewing C1 entitlement and on form D2 it says to tick for C1/D1 entitlement but this does not include C1E or D1E and the next section is to renew or surrender Lorry then another box Bus. I understand not qualified bus but they describe everything as ‘Application for a lorry, bus or minibus D2’ and doesn’t include specifically over 3.5t up to 7.5t so do we come under ’Lorry’ in which case next section needs ticking? As said before DVLA not clear at all. Any help appreciated.
Have D2 form but what is the D48 , please.rb62@
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I only ticked C1/D1 and C1E and D1E came up on the new license.
 
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My wee brain hurts!
In my case, I did not renew my C1 when I reached 70 two years ago.
Do I need to take a medical at this time to get my C1 reinstated?
Or, can I apply to reinstate my C1 without one?
 
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Rapphil said:
I am renewing C1 entitlement and on form D2 it says to tick for C1/D1 entitlement but this does not include C1E or D1E and the next section is to renew or surrender Lorry then another box Bus. I understand not qualified bus but they describe everything as ‘Application for a lorry, bus or minibus D2’ and doesn’t include specifically over 3.5t up to 7.5t so do we come under ’Lorry’ in which case next section needs ticking? As said before DVLA not clear at all. Any help appreciated.
Have D2 form but what is the D48 , please.rb62@
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D48 is a reminder/renewal/application form that the DVLA send out to HGV etc drivers so is not applicable in your case.


Grumpyfrog said:
My wee brain hurts!
In my case, I did not renew my C1 when I reached 70 two years ago.
Do I need to take a medical at this time to get my C1 reinstated?
Or, can I apply to reinstate my C1 without one?
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I would say that you would definitely have to have a medical not sure if anything would be required,good luck trying to getting it re instated!
 
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