PVC design

I hate rear lounges, might as well have a caravan if you have got to make up the beds.
Any van for us must have fixed rear beds & a fixed table. If you have decent cab seats like Aguti why would you want to sit anywhere else.
I too hate the way they block ½ the whoosh bang door with the kitchen unit.
You can fix an intermediate stop on the whoosh bang door rail adjacent to the kitchen unit so that’s a win-win for whoosh bangers.
 
You can fix an intermediate stop on the whoosh bang door rail adjacent to the kitchen unit so that’s a win-win for whoosh bangers.
How does that help with the kitchen unit blocking half the doorway.
 
Because when the door is half shut all of the kitchen unit is indoors ;-)

Come on you’re not that fat. Even I at 15 stone have no problem with a two-foot gap. You can work it out in metric whatsits if necessary.
 
Love the sliding door, it’s great to be able to cook with it wide open. Plus you can sit inside and feel more connected to the outside, and if it’s windy it’s sheltered (assuming wind in the right direction)!
 
Because when the door is half shut all of the kitchen unit is indoors ;-)

Come on you’re not that fat. Even I at 15 stone have no problem with a two-foot gap. You can work it out in metric whatsits if necessary.
My little wife wouldn't be able to see past it if she was sitting on the sofa.
 
We’ve had tents, trailer tents, VW dormobile, Winnebago 10.5 m, Dodge Ram and 10m fifth wheel trailer, Coachmen Concord 9.4 m, and now a Devon Aztec XL pvc.
This Devon Aztec XL is by far the most versatile vehicle we’ve owned. It’s comfortable, economical, with two rear single beds or a king sized bed, ample storage under the beds and in the rearā€˜boot’, it goes almost anywhere, parks almost anywhere, we love the kitchen in the doorway looking out when the sun shines. The rear doors open, again when the sun shines. We have Duvalays that we leave folded on the single beds with covers over them. We simply love it. More than enough storage for us.
We’re currently in Spain for ten weeks and it’s proving to be the best camper we have ever had.
Horses for courses.
Craig

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How does that help with the kitchen unit blocking half the doorway.
As said ,the door stops at the end of the unit. I have not got a kitchen unit their but floor to ceiling shelving
My little wife wouldn't be able to see past it if she was sitting on the sofa.
she wouldn't have to worry in ours,there are no windows:giggle:
 
Interior design is complety subjective. For us our PVC with its rear fixed bed and front dinning/relaxing space works well.
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Love the sliding door, it’s great to be able to cook with it wide open. Plus you can sit inside and feel more connected to the outside, and if it’s windy it’s sheltered (assuming wind in the right direction)!
I tend to find if it's warm enough to have a door that size open it's warm enough to sit outside.
 
You can fix an intermediate stop on the whoosh bang door rail adjacent to the kitchen unit so that’s a win-win for whoosh bangers.
Our Adria already had the intermediate stop for the door, that way when the weather is less than clement we only need to open it half way and when its gloriously sunny and hot we can have it open completely.
Our first van was a front lounge with a bed to be made up every night and there was nowhere separate to sit up if one wanted to have a lie down.
Second van was a 5.4m fixed transverse bed at the back and dinette at the front, worked well for us at the time and was the longest van we could fit on our drive.
Third van (the Adria we have now) is 6.4m, yes we moved house, longitudinal bed which goes up to the ceiling to access the massive garage space which is very rarely full but gives us options if we need them. A dinette at the front, that dinette seat is incredibly uncomfortable so we removed the back and now the dogs sit on it when parked up, we have the captain's chairs at the front and if I want to go and read a book I can sit up on the bed while Mark has the front and table for his laptop. We don't watch tv together at home so no need for one in the van.
 
I tend to find if it's warm enough to have a door that size open it's warm enough to sit outside.
Sometimes it’s windy but the sun is strong enough to keep you warm. Sometimes we’re at places where getting the chairs out isn’t appropriate or allowed.
 
We had the adria twin but found the lounge seat too upright so we got a Globecar family scout l which we have had from new 16 years ago. I changed the seat to make it more comfortable and now Mrs Georgio can sit with feet up. I sit on the passenger seat with my feet up on the drivers seat. this works well for us in a panel van and I have not seen anything to compare although I have tried looking THere is a tranverse bed at the rear which remains made up thoughout our trips. The rear lounge that are mainly British I always thought was because of the poor weather in uk so you spent more time inside.
 
.......The rear lounge that are mainly British I always thought was because of the poor weather in uk so you spent more time inside.
Nail on head there, I think :)
Big comfy lounges for wet afternoons, short daylight hours and when it's blowing a hoolie.
Also when 'camping behaviour' not allowed.

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Nail on head there, I think :)
Big comfy lounges for wet afternoons, short daylight hours and when it's blowing a hoolie.
Also when 'camping behaviour' not allowed.
I don’t have any trouble being comfortable in my smaller front lounge. Each to their own preferences but fadding around making up a rear lounge at bedtime no longer appeals to me, been there done that.
 
the trick is to make the bed up - which takes a max of a minute for us - before actual bedtime.
I do it whilst Husband is washing up after dinner, or we do it before going out for the evening.
 
We wouldn't consider a PVC at any price.
If it ain't got a double floor, we ain't interested!

However PVCs are getting more and more popular. It must be down to a combination of social media 'infuencers', a perceived 'coolness', licensing and minimal parking facilities in the average home.
It's easier to get away with a 'no caravan' covenant when your vehicle isn't a big square box.šŸ™‚

The dealers have got a lot of stock on their hands, it'll be interesting to see how this year pans out for them.
 
We wouldn't consider a PVC at any price.
If it ain't got a double floor, we ain't interested!

However PVCs are getting more and more popular. It must be down to a combination of social media 'infuencers', a perceived 'coolness', licensing and minimal parking facilities in the average home.
It's easier to get away with a 'no caravan' covenant when your vehicle isn't a big square box.šŸ™‚

The dealers have got a lot of stock on their hands, it'll be interesting to see how this year pans out for them.
When buying our van conversion I was influenced by licensing but none of the others apply. I am too mature to be conned by ā€˜influencers’ or ā€˜coolness’ (thank you very much) and I keep the van on a storage site where size doesn't matter. Mostly I just like it for its own attributes. Your assertion ā€œit must be down toā€ shows a lack of appreciation of why other people make different decisions to your own.
 
We wouldn't consider a PVC at any price.
If it ain't got a double floor, we ain't interested!

However PVCs are getting more and more popular. It must be down to a combination of social media 'infuencers', a perceived 'coolness', licensing and minimal parking facilities in the average home.
It's easier to get away with a 'no caravan' covenant when your vehicle isn't a big square box.šŸ™‚

The dealers have got a lot of stock on their hands, it'll be interesting to see how this year pans out for them.
A PVC because:
Greater structural integrity
A preferred combination of payload and B licence
Ease of driving
Ease of parking
Ease of storage (On my drive where it is more secure and I can tinker of an evening rather than stored on a damp field miles away)
Potential for use as a runabout if the car is in dock.
Relative ease of securing servicing

P.S. I don't do social media, influencers or coolness. (And I don't have a large country estate with space for horse boxes and Range Rovers either)
 
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When buying our van conversion I was influenced by licensing but none of the others apply. I am too mature to be conned by ā€˜influencers’ or ā€˜coolness’ (thank you very much) and I keep the van on a storage site where size doesn't matter. Mostly I just like it for its own attributes. Your assertion ā€œit must be down toā€ shows a lack of appreciation of why other people make different decisions to your own
Someone's tired.šŸ™‚

You really need to stop reading between the lines and making assertions based on your presumption of my assertions.šŸ˜‰

However, I thank you for proving my theory of the ease of parking and ease ot storage at home.

For the record, I don't have horses.
 
You really need to stop reading between the lines and making assertions based on your presumption of my assertions.
I don’t need to read between the lines.

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We wouldn't consider a PVC at any price.
If it ain't got a double floor, we ain't interested!

However PVCs are getting more and more popular. It must be down to a combination of social media 'infuencers', a perceived 'coolness', licensing and minimal parking facilities in the average home.
It's easier to get away with a 'no caravan' covenant when your vehicle isn't a big square box.šŸ™‚

The dealers have got a lot of stock on their hands, it'll be interesting to see how this year pans out for them.
We’ve had two big vans with double floors and one of them even had underfloor heating and both had loads of storage, but our PVC is the best van wev’e owned to date..absolutely love it. The reason we have it is…I’ve always wanted one and it was only a matter of time until it happened. We can go almost anywhere in our PVC, but were restricted to some degree with the two big fella’s that we had in the past. So glad we made the switch.
 
Ours wasn’t from choice but dictated by loss of C1, and hence the sale of a 7.5m A Class. However, few regrets. Our PVC has new advantages that now overrule any disadvantages.

Critically the navigatrice and I are able to live harmoniously for three months at a time in the space available.

So, it’s a keeper.
 
I don’t need to read between the lines.
Well thank you for the free pycho-analysis based on just three words of a social media post.

I must get that presumed deficiency in my character seen to by a professional....šŸ™‚
 
My comments are based on what you wrote.

What originally annoyed me is your statement ā€œit must be down to a combination of social media 'infuencers', a perceived 'coolnessā€ which suggests that people who choose a van conversion are too weak minded to make their choices based on their own needs and preferences.
 
I think generally van converters build what can be sold - they'd be stupid not to. If say you are in the minority and therefore your choice of layout is less common.
It's marketing groupthink, in my opinion. Especially those "fashionable" overcab sunroofs. Converters become afraid if they opt out.

I never liked a combination of darker tinted smaller windows and more rooflight area, to compensate for the resulting gloom.

I would get rid of all rooflights on my PC if I could. Nothing but trouble from leaks, that seem a common poitnt of failure after the 5 year mark is passed, long after the warranty period has expired. Water pools on the ridged roofs. Sealant cracks. It's inevitable.

Last Wednesday I was up on the roof (dry weather at last) applying some new sealant to the rear rooflight that had developed an annoying intermittent small leak over the winter. The fix needs to be tested before I embark on another trip.

Lastly, that overcab shelf is ideal for storing the bulky silver screen.
 
Love the sliding door, it’s great to be able to cook with it wide open. Plus you can sit inside and feel more connected to the outside, and if it’s windy it’s sheltered (assuming wind in the right direction)!

With the mozzie screen drawn across the open side doorway it's even better. An optional extra that I use a lot.
 

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