Possible Ban on Non Essential Travel into EU from 1st Jan

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Report in the FT just now might scupper a lot of plans in the short term.
https://www.ft.com/content/43a5b078-9102-4972-b5a8-b52a0081fb94

Most Britons will be barred from visiting EU countries from January 1 when pandemic safety rules that allow free travel within the bloc stop applying to the UK. The end of the Brexit transition period means that the UK will be subject to a system that only allows non-essential travel from a handful of non-EU countries with low coronavirus infection rates, the European Commission said. EU member states have shied away from overriding a recommendation to stop the entry of travellers from countries such as the US, which are not on the list of “safe” third nations. Only eight of the countries with very low coronavirus infection rates are on the list. Eighteen EU countries have a higher rate of infection than the UK, according to data from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, the Covid Tracking Project and national health ministries. Britons will only be able to travel to EU countries if the bloc relaxes its pandemic travel curbs or individual member states choose to override the rules. EU officials said there is currently no proposal to add the UK to the list of safe nations, which includes Australia, New Zealand and Singapore. If a proposal is made, Britain would still have to meet the technical criteria for inclusion. These include epidemiological benchmarks and an assessment of coronavirus containment measures, as well as “economic and social considerations”. Many EU member states do not allow in travellers from countries on the safe list, reflecting the hard battle much of Europe is facing to control coronavirus infection rates. Only 12 of the European nations apply the list in full, while three — Hungary, Croatia and Norway — have not adopted it at all, the commission said. Recommended Coronavirus pandemic London could face tighter Covid restrictions, warns Sadiq Khan 2 HOURS AGO In another sign of the looming concrete impacts of Brexit, Norway — which is part of the EU travel arrangement — has confirmed it will stop British citizens who do not live in the country entering from January 1. Norway, whose biggest export country is the UK, this week signed deals with the UK on healthcare and social security arrangements, as well as a continuity trade deal ahead of a potential full-blown trade agreement. Travellers from Britain could still visit the bloc after December 31 under exemptions including for diplomats, “imperative family reasons” and some “highly qualified third-country workers”. Nationals of the European countries who live in Britain will continue to be allowed in, as will Britons who reside in the EU.
 
Interesting article here suggesting that due to COVID and Brexit, people from UK will not be allowed into Europe from Jan 1st.

Source: FT, 9th Dec.

Most Britons face bar from visiting EU under Covid safety rules​

Non-essential travel from UK will be subject to curbs after Brexit transition ends.​


Most Britons will be barred from visiting EU countries from January 1 when pandemic safety rules that allow free travel within the bloc stop applying to the UK.

The end of the Brexit transition period means that the UK will be subject to a system that only allows non-essential travel from a handful of non-EU countries with low coronavirus infection rates, the European Commission said.

EU member states have shied away from overriding a recommendation to stop the entry of travellers from countries such as the US, which are not on the list of “safe” third nations. Only eight of the countries with very low coronavirus infection rates are on the list.

Eighteen EU countries have a higher rate of infection than the UK, according to data from the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, the Covid Tracking Project and national health ministries.

Britons will only be able to travel to EU countries if the bloc relaxes its pandemic travel curbs or individual member states choose to override the rules.

EU officials said there is currently no proposal to add the UK to the list of safe nations, which includes Australia, New Zealand and Singapore. If a proposal is made, Britain would still have to meet the technical criteria for inclusion. These include epidemiological benchmarks and an assessment of coronavirus containment measures, as well as “economic and social considerations”.

Some EU member states do not even allow in travellers from countries on the safe list, reflecting the hard battle much of Europe is facing to control coronavirus infection rates. Only 12 of the European nations apply the list in full, while three — Hungary, Croatia and Norway — have not adopted it at all, the commission said.
 
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I think the point here is that this is (apparently the case) whilst the COVID controls are in place.

Well it's not happening now...................so why would it change?
 
Well it's not happening now...................so why would it change?

The article states.....


“The end of the Brexit transition period means that the UK will be subject to a system that only allows non-essential travel from a handful of non-EU countries with low coronavirus infection rates, the European Commission said.

EU member states have shied away from overriding a recommendation to stop the entry of travellers from countries such as the US, which are not on the list of “safe” third nations. Only eight of the countries with very low coronavirus infection rates are on the list.”

So we are on the naughty list not the good list, thus we don’t get in except for essential travel.
 
The article states.....


“The end of the Brexit transition period means that the UK will be subject to a system that only allows non-essential travel from a handful of non-EU countries with low coronavirus infection rates, the European Commission said.

EU member states have shied away from overriding a recommendation to stop the entry of travellers from countries such as the US, which are not on the list of “safe” third nations. Only eight of the countries with very low coronavirus infection rates are on the list.”

So we are on the naughty list not the good list, thus we don’t get in except for essential travel.

Yeah right.....................

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There have been/ are loads of examples of countries banning visitors from other countries during this crisis.

But not France Portugal and Spain........... to motorhomers !............. non news............. gossip...
 
changing legislation across the eu does not take just days....i wouldnt worry just yet.
But if covid restrictions happen then that a different matter
 

UK holidaymakers barred from EU after 1 January under Covid rules​

European commission indicates Britons will face ban on nonessential travel at end of Brexit transition

Only a few nations are exempt from rules that prohibit nonessential visitors from outside the EU and European Economic Area (EEA) – with the UK included only until 1 January. Photograph: Getty

Wed 9 Dec 2020 23.58 GMT
Last modified on Thu 10 Dec 2020 04.37 GMT


  • British holidaymakers will be barred from the European Union from 1 January under current Covid-19 safety restrictions, with the EU commission indicating there will be no exemption for the UK.
    Only a handful of countries with low coronavirus rates are exempt from rules that prohibit nonessential visitors from outside the EU and European Economic Area (EEA) – with the UK included only until the end of the Brexit transition period.

    EU member states agreed in October to adopt a European council proposal to allow nonessential travel from a small group of countries with lower levels of Covid cases including Australia, New Zealand and South Korea.
    An EU commission spokesman last week said there were no plans to extend that to the UK. “This is a decision for the council to make,” he said.
    Within the EEA, or Schengen-associated states, Norway has also confirmed it will bar UK visitors from 1 January, according to the Financial Times.
    The imminent bracketing of British tourists with those of other non-EU countries such as Albania and Turkey underlines the potential impact of a no-deal Brexit. EU member states can override the European council recommendations in theory, should they wish to .
    Leisure airlines including easyJet had reported a surge in bookings for 2021 in recent weeks after news of a vaccine, but many of those trips will be in doubt.
    A UK government spokesperson said: “We cannot comment on decisions that could be taken by other states on public health matters.
    “We take a scientific, risk-based approach to health measures at the border, and it is of course in the interests of all countries to allow safe international travel as we emerge from the pandemic.”
    Under European rules, individuals can still enter the bloc in certain cases, mainly for work – including aid workers, care workers, diplomats, healthcare professionals, military personnel, seasonal farm workers and transport workers. Entry for study, transit, and urgent family reasons is also permitted.
    The Foreign Office currently advises against all nonessential travel to most of Europe, bar some holiday destinations such as certain Greek islands, and quarantine on return is required for those who choose to travel.
    With most insurance policies invalidated by the FCO advice – and with the end of the Ehic (European Health Insurance Card) reciprocal health cover scheme on 31 December – UK travel industry sources said that outbound bookings were currently very low for winter sports holidays in 2021.

  • Extract from The Guardian

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It's something which has been concerning me, and there have already been allusions to it by a couple of other Funsters.😦.
It seems to me to be a logical conclusion, under current Schengen Covid travel restrictions, post-Brexit (hope I don't get banned for using the word).
We're hoping to travel in March/April once we've both had the vaccine. I have been worrying that maybe we should bring that forward to 30th December, because if we wait until January, we may not be allowed into the Schengen area, under currently existing rules.
 
If there is a grain of truth in this and if it is implemented I’m curious as to what the reaction of European ski resorts will be.
The majority of French alpine ski resorts are on their knees with businesses failing daily.
I think there might be a rethink or a ‘ clarification ‘ 😂

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If there is a grain of truth in this and if it is implemented I’m curious as to what the reaction of European ski resorts will be.
The majority of French alpine ski resorts are on their knees with businesses failing daily.
I think there might be a rethink or a ‘ clarification ‘ 😂

France has been very quick to shut the entire country down - so picking one industry shouldn’t be a challenge for them.

Besides, according to other sources I’ve read they will allow “local” access to slopes but not cross-border travel (even between EU nations) for skiing purposes.
 
It's something which has been concerning me, and there have already been allusions to it by a couple of other Funsters.😦.
It seems to me to be a logical conclusion, under current Schengen Covid travel restrictions, post-Brexit (hope I don't get banned for using the word).
We're hoping to travel in March/April once we've both had the vaccine. I have been worrying that maybe we should bring that forward to 30th December, because if we wait until January, we may not be allowed into the Schengen area, under currently existing rules.
I think it's pretty unlikely to happen even though I'm hardly a B fan. If it did what would happen to people already there?. It might be they are asked to leave!!!. It looks like all of europe is struggling with covid at the moment I think it's a lot more likely that all countries have travel restrictions for everyone in a third wave in the new year Germany evidently are already talking of a national lockdown for 2 weeks at the start of January.
 
Well it's not happening now...................so why would it change?
Because currently we are still in Transition and considered part of the EU which is no longer the case come 11pm December 31st we become a Third Country so current rules/regulations no longer apply.
 
France has been very quick to shut the entire country down - so picking one industry shouldn’t be a challenge for them.

Besides, according to other sources I’ve read they will allow “local” access to slopes but not cross-border travel (even between EU nations) for skiing purposes.
I was in France a week ago, it didn’t look very shut down to me.
The Alpine communities are already suffering and making a lot of noise directed at Macron and if no Brits go to the 3v , Val d isere etc this season there will be resorts that close for good.
I don’t think the French government will allow this to happen.

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I was in France a week ago, it didn’t look very shut down to me.
The Alpine communities are already suffering and making a lot of noise directed at Macron and if no Brits go to the 3v , Val d isere etc this season there will be resorts that close for good.
I don’t think the French government will allow this to happen.

I think they will, the bars and clubs in Birmingham are also making noise but the government have shut them.

The alternative is more deaths and a third wave, just when hospitals are at their busiest.

An awful lose lose situation all round. :-(

I really hope you are right and they find a safe way to open.
 
I was in France a week ago, it didn’t look very shut down to me.
The Alpine communities are already suffering and making a lot of noise directed at Macron and if no Brits go to the 3v , Val d isere etc this season there will be resorts that close for good.
I don’t think the French government will allow this to happen.
I think the problem is going to be what% of skiers they need to make it economically viable to open and how many will choose to go given the likely experience if bars restrict entry . I think it will either be they let enough in to make it worth opening in which case there will be little chance of distancing or there will be distancing but so few people there that they won't open.
So personally it's off for us this year we'll just have 3 weeks the next 2 years and miss a couple of weeks this season.
Given the big start of spread in the UK was at skiing time last year you have to wonder if there's an argument for a proper (Australia type) quarantine after returning.
 
Whilst brits make up a small percentage of tourists, by far the majority are from other eu countries. This perpetual attitude that they ‘need’ us or they’ll all go bust simply isn’t true🙄


Oh, except Beni of course 😝🤪
I suspect that's why it's a marmite destination
 

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