Position of sat nav Illegal Police advise!

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Bottom RH side of screen, can’t see that working for LH drive.

Do do see them in silly places in cars though, like directly in front of driver who has to look around the unit to see the road.

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I love the statement - "The only Legal place" is the bottom right of the windscreen - oh, and up by the rear view mirror, the bottom left, bottom centre, air vents and anywhere else it doesn't block your view.:rolleyes::rolleyes: . Would have been easier to say "Don't affix it to the windscreen in your direct eye-line".:D2:D2
 
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This is a story which first appeared last week, and it was very quickly knocked on the head by Greater Manchester Police themselves. Someone got a bit above themselves at GMP and posted something which we all know to be nonsense.
 
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Poor positioning needs highlighting though. We were taken out for a meal this week by a friend. His toad had the satnav directly in front of him - absolutely dead centre in front - blocking most of the road ahead. I don't what possessed him to put it there but l felt distinctly uncomfortable.

The best position, if it's available, is anywhere in that area where the view out is obscured anyway by the vehicle bonnet. Or anywhere that if it wasn't there you'd be looking at the sky. Or anywhere that isn't swept by the wipers. It isn't rocket science to keep it out of the way but next time you're driving just note how many drivers have theirs in a stupid place.
 

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I have asked this before, but, no one seems willing to provide an answer.
I cant push a button on my screen mounted sat nav or phone without risking a fine and points...........But police officers chasing cars through built up areas can mess around with their stab vest mounted models, removing one hand from their steering wheels at 90 mph. Are they exempt???? o_O

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The official DVSA pov for HGV , same for PSV nothing within the swept area of the windscreen or protrude more than 40mm into that area , unless that area is already masked by an original part of the vehicle (eg dash cowl)
There is a special exemption for positioning of toll tags (within reason eg not in front of eyeline but at edge )

I have seen a few "spokesmen" eg RAC, Police (not a traffic officer) spouting a load of twaddle , having not read the legislation but simplifying to try and get a view across , and adding to the confusion .
 
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I have asked this before, but, no one seems willing to provide an answer.
I cant push a button on my screen mounted sat nav or phone without risking a fine and points...........But police officers chasing cars through built up areas can mess around with their stab vest mounted models, removing one hand from their steering wheels at 90 mph. Are they exempt???? o_O
Probably :D2

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Anyone know which law...?
It is an offence under regulation 30 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 if a driver’s vision is obscured whilst driving, the rules applying to 10mm of obstruction in zone A of the windscreen and 40mm in zone B.

s41 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 provides that a person is guilty of an offence who does not have proper control or a full view of the road and traffic ahead.
 

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In theory you can fail your mot if the satnav or dashcam are in a not allowed pisition, most places though just remove them.
 
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I have asked this before, but, no one seems willing to provide an answer.
I cant push a button on my screen mounted sat nav or phone without risking a fine and points...........But police officers chasing cars through built up areas can mess around with their stab vest mounted models, removing one hand from their steering wheels at 90 mph. Are they exempt???? o_O
The law relates specifically to handheld mobile phones. No other device is specifically illegal but depending on circumstances use of such could be considered as contributing to lack of full control.

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Bottom rh side of screen.
Just right for a passer by to nick if you're at a standstill with your window open lol
 
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Just to throw salt into the wounds

Be careful in Spain there the driver should not be able to view the screen as it will cause a distraction and will therefore be illegal - not sure how that works as with comments above police have them in the centre of the screen over there too

fortunately (or unfortunately ) ours is in the Radio so the screen can be folded away and I can't see it but it still tells me where to go
 
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I have asked this before, but, no one seems willing to provide an answer.
I cant push a button on my screen mounted sat nav or phone without risking a fine and points...........But police officers chasing cars through built up areas can mess around with their stab vest mounted models, removing one hand from their steering wheels at 90 mph. Are they exempt???? o_O

I agree - belting along and using their talking broaches.

We are being treated like children - not able to operate any equipment whilst driving in a safe manner without getting points.

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Mine sits on a vent bracket so not a problem at the moment, however I recently bought a HUD type gadget which has a fold-up mirror surface which reflects your phone display. Not too many HUD enabled apps at the moment but I've got mine situated near the top of the dashboard directly in my line of view which isn't compromised due to the high Ducato seating position in the moho. Not sure how the legislation would affect it as its not affixed to the screen, causing an obstruction or impairing my view..

www.amazon.co.uk/Car-Head-Display-HUD-Compatibility/dp/B06VT9SKFW/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1515700131&sr=8-8&keywords=Hud
 
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:rofl::rofl: Dear , oh dear, so who's actually read the highway code then ? . :rofl::rofl:


Now this could be really interesting , because i seem to recall reading it's also illegal to be able to see a tv screen from the driving seat too .





The really interesting bit is that one would include radio's too .
 
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I've got a mount that suctions to the dash:
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So the mount is stuck to the corner of the useless dash-top clipboard thing, mounting my phone is just above the gear stick. It's nice and easy to read and only just breaks into the line of the windscreen. It's done about 2000 miles, including around the Highlands, without coming off. Recommended to me by a taxi driver.

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Just to throw salt into the wounds

Be careful in Spain there the driver should not be able to view the screen as it will cause a distraction and will therefore be illegal - not sure how that works as with comments above police have them in the centre of the screen over there too

fortunately (or unfortunately ) ours is in the Radio so the screen can be folded away and I can't see it but it still tells me where to go
Do you have a link to the legislation where this is stated? Googling finds a number of people quoting legislation which prohibits DVD screens etc being visible to the driver, but explicitly exempts satnavs from this:

Quedan prohibidos los dispositivos que puedan distraer al conductor, como pantallas con acceso a internet, monitores de televisión y reproductores de vídeo o DVD. Se exceptúan a estos efectos el uso de monitores que, aún estando a la vista del conductor, su utilización sea necesaria (visión de acceso o bajada de peatones, maniobras traseras...) así como el dispositivo GPS.

Unfortunately the links to the place on the dgt.es site where this quote comes from no longer work.
 

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I have asked this before, but, no one seems willing to provide an answer.
I cant push a button on my screen mounted sat nav or phone without risking a fine and points...........But police officers chasing cars through built up areas can mess around with their stab vest mounted models, removing one hand from their steering wheels at 90 mph. Are they exempt???? o_O

In a word "YES". One law for them, One for us. Is now and always will be.:rolleyes:
 
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It never ceases to amaze me how many people I see with a sat Nav placed in a prominent position on the windscreen. Their location obliterates a significant field of view. It wasn’t that long ago that I remember a furore over the thickness of the A pillars on cars as being a danger to pedestrian/cyclists.

Perhaps MOT testers should stop removing sat navs from screens prior to testing. A failed MOT would soon increase the awareness around this hazard.

As both a biker and a rather tall bod for whom the rear view mirror obscures a fair chunk of my forward view, I’m very conscious of anything that diminishes the view out of the fron screen. If I have a passion the car and they fold the sun visor on their side, I have to fold it back up immediately otherwise I have lost close to 25% of my visibility.

The above refers to driving cars; it’s not a problem in the MH!

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As usual, a sad lack of that old commodity "common sense". Mine is on the dash centre mounted. I can see 99.9% of the windscreen, and can monitor it if necessary without moving my neck, just a quick flick of the eyes. It is also useful in that I have a far more accurate speed output than the Fiat Clock which I have to lower my head to see, and in some lighting situations is barely visible!. Short of having a "Jet Fighter" head up display it is probably the safest configuration. If some of these "jobsworths" had the brain of an omeba they would be dangerous!
 
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:rofl::rofl: Dear , oh dear, so who's actually read the highway code then ? . :rofl::rofl:


Now this could be really interesting , because i seem to recall reading it's also illegal to be able to see a tv screen from the driving seat too .





The really interesting bit is that one would include radio's too .
A display is not a TV screen?

Edit: Just realised you probably meant radios with a TV facility.

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