Plate Explanation (1 Viewer)

[Flightlevel55]

Hi funsters.
Can anyone explain the two plates on my 2016 Elddis Marquis 125. Obviously one is Peugeot fitted when the Boxer chassis cab was built and the other by Explorer Group. I am trying to understand what the second number is for and why it is showing 5800kg on the Peugeot plate and 5300kg on the Explorer one? Secondly if the max weight is 3300kg why do the two axle weights not add up to this. ie 1750+1900 = 3650. Apologies if this appears to be a daft question but it only came up as I was looking at the plates to help determine correct tyre pressures.

 

[Lenny HB]

The Explorer one is the one you go by.
3300 kg MAM
5300 kg Gross Train Weight
1750 kg Max front axle loading
1900 kg Max rear axle loading

 

[Stealaway]

Hi funsters.
Can anyone explain the two plates on my 2016 Elddis Marquis 125. Obviously one is Peugeot fitted when the Boxer chassis cab was built and the other by Explorer Group. I am trying to understand what the second number is for and why it is showing 5800kg on the Peugeot plate and 5300kg on the Explorer one? Secondly if the max weight is 3300kg why do the two axle weights not add up to this. ie 1750+1900 = 3650. Apologies if this appears to be a daft question but it only came up as I was looking at the plates to help determine correct tyre pressures.

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The first one is the manufactures plate - ignore that one
The second is the van converters plate which means the maximum load you can have in the van is 3,000Kg - the 5300kg is maximum you pull with the van and a trailer

 

[Flightlevel55]

Ah thanks for that. Train weight including trailer or similar I assume? Would make sense if they actually wrote that on the plate I would have thought. Still unsure why axle weights don’t add up to the MAM or is that not related or relevant?

 

[Flightlevel55]

Sorry that answer was to Lenny and thanks stealaway for your comment too.

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[Lenny HB]

Ah thanks for that. Train weight including trailer or similar I assume? Would make sense if they actually wrote that on the plate I would have thought. Still unsure why axle weights don’t add up to the MAM or is that not related or relevant?

Axle weights are nearly always over the MAM. You can load each axle to the maxium but you mustn't exceed the MAM.

With those axle weights you could uprate the MAM to a max of 3650kg without any mods.

 

[tonka]

The reduction in the train weight ie 5800 to 5300 is most likely to be because extensions have been used on the chassis to take a bigger body. So will be based on the strength of the extensions, you may also find there is a max tow weight stated in the Certificate of conformity.

 

[Stealaway]

Sorry that answer was to Lenny and thanks stealaway for your comment too.

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[1967bowesj]

Nobody loves me

love

Stealaway coulnt get it any bigger lol

 

[Stealaway]

love

Stealaway coulnt get it any bigger lol

Thank you --- I feel better now

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[Flightlevel55]

The reduction in the train weight ie 5800 to 5300 is most likely to be because extensions have been used on the chassis to take a bigger body. So will be based on the strength of the extensions, you may also find there is a max tow weight stated in the Certificate of conformity.

Thanks, I love this forum, always a great wealth of knowledge here.

 

[Flightlevel55]

Axle weights are nearly always over the MAM. You can load each axle to the maxium but you mustn't exceed the MAM.

With those axle weights you could uprate the MAM to a max of 3650kg without any mods.

Thanks, I was wondering if that was the case but then it made me wonder why they the didn’t do that at the factory. Would it be a difficult process to uprate it if I needed to at some time? It’s only a 5.99 mtr MH and has around 600kgs load capacity but with 100ltr fresh water tank, fuel and people and other stuff I suppose that soon gets eaten up. I am going to a weighbridge to weigh each axle and the whole thing shortly as I need to try and improve the ride by reducing the tyre pressures a little if I can.

Using some of the links on here and using the axle weights on the plate it seems I could reduce the fronts to 63psi but apparently still need 80psi in the rears. I think maybe due to the 109 rating on the 215/70/15 tyres being close to the max weight. Of course then the TPMS will be complaining about front low pressure which I understand can’t be reset to new pressures without an OBD tool (if it’s even possible on a Boxer)

 

[Fdhadi]

Some things are simple when they are explained properly
Persons who do not have a C1 licence can drive it beforehand. More sellable.

 

[Flightlevel55]

Some things are simple when they are explained properly

They are indeed, I’ve learnt so much on this forum since I became a member.

 

[Flightlevel55]

Some things are simple when they are explained properly
Persons who do not have a C1 licence can drive it beforehand. More sellable.

Good point on the C1 (which I happen to have) but they could have given more load capacity if they had made it 3500kg. Interesting the the Peugeot plate also says 3300kg.

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[1967bowesj]

I uplated our van very recently, not because I wanted to carry that much extra but wanted more scope on rear axle load.
Simple paper exercise this time I used svtech as van weight could not supply the needed paperwor. I had fitted semi air to rear suspension already. Was straight forward and much better ride, was able to run tyre pressure a little lower than the old tyres too.