Pigtails

[jonsey324]

Good evening everyone,
Is there a sell by date on truma rubber pigtails?, my gas cupboard is starting to smell a bit!.

Thanks
Kieran.

 

[Steve and Denise]

5 years apparently

 

[Lenny HB]

Should be a year of manufacture on them. If they are Truma pigtails they recommended replacement at 10 years.

 

[Lenny HB]

5 years apparently

5 years for low pressure hose, 10 years for high pressure, pigtails are high pressure.

 

[Speve]

Worth checking all the joints as one may be slightly loose and seeping enough to smell

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[Steve and Denise]

5 years for low pressure hose, 10 years for high pressure, pigtails are high pressure.

I just asked the question at Autogas2000 you would have thought he would have mentioned that.

 

[Lenny HB]

I just asked the question at Autogas2000 you would have thought he would have mentioned that.

Truma say 10 years for their Pigtals but 6 years in France (legal thing).

 

[BillyKontiki]

Buy a can of leak detection fluid from screwfix or Amazon it will show up any leakage but if the
Smell persist get a gas engineer to test it.

 

[2 Jabs]

If you think its gas surely its worth changing them anyway or is there something else that could be causing a smell?
Regulator, copper pipe connections?

 

[jonsey324]

Picking a can up tomorrow, and checking everything is tight and sealed

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[Vikdikdok]

I make a habit of new hose(s) every 3 years

 

[kevenh]

A lot of the smell is the added gas - but that will be worse on older tuning, right?

 

[Scattycat]

I bought a small hand held gas detector.
It's easy to use, just turn it on and hold it near a joint/connection. It's simple and effective and not very expensive.
Great for giving you peace of mind.

 

[Lenny HB]

I bought a small hand held gas detector.
It's easy to use, just turn it on and hold it near a joint/connection. It's simple and effective and not very expensive.
Great for giving you peace of mind.

I always carry one.

 

[Steve and Denise]

A lot of the smell is the added gas - but that will be worse on older tuning, right?

What is the smell they put in gas ? Some time back we met a guy at a rally and his job was putting the smell in gas but can’t remember what he said it was, once you get it on your hands it takes days to get off

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[kevenh]

What is the smell they put in gas ?

Ethyl Mercaptan

 

[icantremember]

Replace the old rubber tails with stainless steel ones .. longer life span and no gas smell in locker (unless you have a leak)

 

[Steve and Denise]

Ethyl Mercaptan

Well it certainly stinks

 

[Gellyneck]

Ethyl Mercaptan

Is that the same stuff they decorate cakes with?

ooops, no that's marzipan!

 

[jonsey324]

I always carry one.

Any makes or model?,

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[kevenh]

Any makes or model?,

Lenny HB and I use one from this post

 

[jonsey324]

Lenny HB and I use one from this post

Thanks kevenh

 

[kevenh]

Thanks kevenh

They work well.
I was suspicious of a locker smell.
Moved the sensor from the regulator along the tube to the bottle, and from an increase in beep intensity, I found I hadn't fully turned off the tap.
It needed more effort to fully close than I expected.

With it properly secured I thought it would be a hoot to demo the sensor to mrskevenh by turning on a gas ring on the cooker. So releasing the trapped gas.
The sensor beeped very urgently then and a surprised and cross mrskevenh suggested I was very silly and should not do that again (or similar words).

edit: hmm. a little funnier in real life than described in a post

 

[Scattycat]

Any makes or model?,

Go to ebay and type in 'gas detector', mine is similar to the pen type

 

[BillyKontiki]

They work well.
I was suspicious of a locker smell.
Moved the sensor from the regulator along the tube to the bottle, and from an increase in beep intensity, I found I hadn't fully turned off the tap.
It needed more effort to fully close than I expected.

With it properly secured I thought it would be a hoot to demo the sensor to mrskevenh by turning on a gas ring on the cooker. So releasing the trapped gas.
The sensor beeped very urgently then and a surprised and cross mrskevenh suggested I was very silly and should not do that again (or similar words).

edit: hmm. a little funnier in real life than described in a post

Am I picking you up correctly. With the gas valve open you shouldn’t get a gas alarm unless you have a leak.

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[bertiebasset]

Not only the hoses, I remember dropping off an empty calor bottle at Dover on our way over to catch a ferry a few years ago. It leaked on the bottle outlet connection so even when turned off it still leaked. Had smelt if for some time on and off but could not work it out until actually being in the van overnight.

 

[kevenh]

Am I picking you up correctly. With the gas valve open you shouldn’t get a gas alarm unless you have a leak.

Good point. I recounted my anecdote incorrectly.
This was after a bottle exchange so it was the nut on tube's pigtail that needed more tightening
Tnx for the feedback

 

[Basildog]

I just asked the question at Autogas2000 you would have thought he would have mentioned that.

Technically no lifespan as such on a rubber hose unless it’s a class 1 which is 5 years .
Lots of different opinions on this subject.
NCC fitters seem to get really excited when they find an old pigtail.
I am actually Gas Safe Registered with the lav ticket , it’s all down to condition basically as a year old hose could need replacement on a seaside holiday park home .