Our Morelo Palace (2 Viewers)

[sallylillian]

The eurocargo will be a truck working at lower level of its capabilities whereas the Daily was more vansize components working at the upper end. It used to be that ride was better on the daily but with full air the heavier vehicle will be very little different . JMHO

Interesting, I have Full VB air on my Daily chassis, do you expect a similar ride between it and the Eurocargo (not the light version) as a result. I am disappointed that you lose the 8 speed ZF box and get. 6 speed so that will be something I will look out for.

 

[Richard Birkett]

I don't know if it helps but my M Liner is on a MAN TGI chassis and having had both ducato & iveco based Motorhomes previously, I find the MAN so much easier to drive. It seems to be hardly working very hard ever & the engine breaking makes descents a doddle and saves the normal breaks. Air brakes are superb and of course its rear wheel drive.

 

[tacr2man]

Air suspension really does improve the ride over steel, coil or leaf , from my experience. The other plus I would think will be air brakes on the eurocargo . They tend to be less temperamental when on motorhomes than hydraulic . The calipers on Dailys can be a bit "sticky" if left sitting for periods. They are easily sorted if you notice
(on the rear) otherwise I have seen them melt the hubcaps !

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[tacr2man]

Interesting, I have Full VB air on my Daily chassis, do you expect a similar ride between it and the Eurocargo (not the light version) as a result. I am disappointed that you lose the 8 speed ZF box and get. 6 speed so that will be something I will look out for.

I shouldn't be over-worried about going from 8 speed to six speed as Allison boxes are only 6 (in mine) , and is more than enough ratios , usually as bigger engines dont have such a peaky torque band

 

[OurMoreloLife]

You can't always believe what you are told so double-double check.

For example. I knew I would buy a Morelo or a Concorde. I also knew I wanted a Telma Retarder installed as I thought the brakes on a an Iveco Daily chassis were not likely to be that great when running close to all up weight and would need some assistance. So I asked the question.

A well known Concorde dealers' staff told me "No, no, you can't have one - I've checked, the manufacturers won't allow a retarder on a fibreglass motorhome as they are installed close to the underside of the floor and as they overheat can catch fire; way too dangerous"

Whereas Morelo advertise them as an option (which I wished mine had as they do take some stopping)!

 

[tacr2man]

You can't always believe what you are told so double-double check.

For example. I knew I would buy a Morelo or a Concorde. I also knew I wanted a Telma Retarder installed as I thought the brakes on a an Iveco Daily chassis were not likely to be that great when running close to all up weight and would need some assistance. So I asked the question.

A well known Concorde dealers' staff told me "No, no, you can't have one - I've checked, the manufacturers won't allow a retarder on a fibreglass motorhome as they are installed close to the underside of the floor and as they overheat can catch fire; way too dangerous"

Whereas Morelo advertise them as an option (which I wished mine had as they do take some stopping)!

Telma electric retarders are brilliant , and as for the heat, fire risk utter tosh , in actual fact Dangerous goods vehicles have to have "secondary " braking fitted as requirement , so sometimes Telmas are used to provide such . They are also very common on coaches , especially for alpine routes , although now hydraulic retarders are becoming popular as extra due to more automatic gearboxes.

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[DuxDeluxe]

You can't always believe what you are told so double-double check.

For example. I knew I would buy a Morelo or a Concorde. I also knew I wanted a Telma Retarder installed as I thought the brakes on a an Iveco Daily chassis were not likely to be that great when running close to all up weight and would need some assistance. So I asked the question.

A well known Concorde dealers' staff told me "No, no, you can't have one - I've checked, the manufacturers won't allow a retarder on a fibreglass motorhome as they are installed close to the underside of the floor and as they overheat can catch fire; way too dangerous"

Whereas Morelo advertise them as an option (which I wished mine had as they do take some stopping)!

The Telma retarder was one option I really wish that mine had. It was on the options list and probably the only thing the previous owner did not tick........

 

[OurMoreloLife]

Exactly, just like mine (well, of course that and the Jacuzzi)

 

[JockandRita]

I have no experience of Morelo MHs (though I do wish I was in the market for one ), but I have had experience of Telma retarders, and exhaust brakes. I love them both, and always used them where at all possible, when driving Coaches or Trucks.

Cheers,

Jock.

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[OurMoreloLife]

The Telma retarder was one option I really wish that mine had. It was on the options list and probably the only thing the previous owner did not tick........

On the way back to the tunnel from Munich with our Morelo we went down this huge hill (on the road of course) and the gearbox & engine started screaming, the revs went through the roof and I didn't have a clue what was happening. Nothing I could do to stop it. It almost seemed that the more I braked the more the engine screamed. I later experienced it on a smaller scale recently in the UK on a steep downward gradient.

Do you think that is the ZF doing the breaking for me through the gearbox?

 

[DuxDeluxe]

On the way back to the tunnel from Munich with our Morelo we went down this huge hill (on the road of course) and the gearbox & engine started screaming, the revs went through the roof and I didn't have a clue what was happening. Nothing I could do to stop it. It almost seemed that the more I braked the more the engine screamed. I later experienced it on a smaller scale recently in the UK on a steep downward gradient.

Do you think that is the ZF doing the breaking for me through the gearbox?

Not at all sure on that. I ave no real life experience of them except to be advised that it is a very desirable extra

 

[tacr2man]

On the way back to the tunnel from Munich with our Morelo we went down this huge hill (on the road of course) and the gearbox & engine started screaming, the revs went through the roof and I didn't have a clue what was happening. Nothing I could do to stop it. It almost seemed that the more I braked the more the engine screamed. I later experienced it on a smaller scale recently in the UK on a steep downward gradient.

Do you think that is the ZF doing the breaking for me through the gearbox?

Is it an automatic , as it might be programmed to do that ,
I have an Allison auto in mine , and that will do what you describe
(not quite to that extreme) if I have the exhaust brake selected and remove my foot from the accelerator . It will then downshift as you get slower , gear after gear . You also get similar with trucks , that you can select exhaust brake , and you can remove your foot from accelerator ,nothing happens , but if you just touch the brake pedal it will bring in exhaust brake and then downshift .

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[Steve and Denise]

@OurMoreloLife I did a table mod to reduce our huge table but can not seem to find the thread maybe some one can find it and post a link. It looks as close to factory fit as any I have seen.

 

[Hellski]

@OurMoreloLife I did a table mod to reduce our huge table but can not seem to find the thread maybe some one can find it and post a link. It looks as close to factory fit as any I have seen.

Would it be this one, link here?

 

[funflair]

On the way back to the tunnel from Munich with our Morelo we went down this huge hill (on the road of course) and the gearbox & engine started screaming, the revs went through the roof and I didn't have a clue what was happening. Nothing I could do to stop it. It almost seemed that the more I braked the more the engine screamed. I later experienced it on a smaller scale recently in the UK on a steep downward gradient.

Do you think that is the ZF doing the breaking for me through the gearbox?

I have heard other people say that the IVECO Daily ZF combination does this down shift and high revs thing, they wanted to have Telmar retarder fitted post build but its either not simple or not possible, well certainly not with their build spec but each van might be different.

Martin

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[sallylillian]

On the way back to the tunnel from Munich with our Morelo we went down this huge hill (on the road of course) and the gearbox & engine started screaming, the revs went through the roof and I didn't have a clue what was happening. Nothing I could do to stop it. It almost seemed that the more I braked the more the engine screamed. I later experienced it on a smaller scale recently in the UK on a steep downward gradient.

Do you think that is the ZF doing the breaking for me through the gearbox?

The ZF box is electronically talking to the engine, mine automatically changes down when I brake, and then again if you were still braking, I think its brilliant, you just have to apply the brakes judiciously.

 

[icantremember]

The Telma retarder was one option I really wish that mine had. It was on the options list and probably the only thing the previous owner did not tick........

Shame you had to settle for the hole in the floor ... Flintstone style!

 

[DuxDeluxe]

Shame you had to settle for the hole in the floor ... Flintstone style!

It don’t half wear out the shoe leather.......

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[tacr2man]

On the way back to the tunnel from Munich with our Morelo we went down this huge hill (on the road of course) and the gearbox & engine started screaming, the revs went through the roof and I didn't have a clue what was happening. Nothing I could do to stop it. It almost seemed that the more I braked the more the engine screamed. I later experienced it on a smaller scale recently in the UK on a steep downward gradient.

Do you think that is the ZF doing the breaking for me through the gearbox?

If you have M position on the selector , and use it as a paddle shift
tap it down one gear at the start of the downhill to use engine braking does it still do the downshift or will it hold in that gear and allow you to supplement the engine braking by use of the footbrake ?

 

[CazPaul]

You can't always believe what you are told so double-double check.

For example. I knew I would buy a Morelo or a Concorde. I also knew I wanted a Telma Retarder installed as I thought the brakes on a an Iveco Daily chassis were not likely to be that great when running close to all up weight and would need some assistance. So I asked the question.

A well known Concorde dealers' staff told me "No, no, you can't have one - I've checked, the manufacturers won't allow a retarder on a fibreglass motorhome as they are installed close to the underside of the floor and as they overheat can catch fire; way too dangerous"

Whereas Morelo advertise them as an option (which I wished mine had as they do take some stopping)!

I thought Concordes were Aluminium inside and out, not fibreglass?

 

[Southdowners]

They are. They’re extremely well built.

There may be fibreglass on the skirts but I expect the same would be true on a Morelo.

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[Southdowners]

You can't always believe what you are told so double-double check.

For example. I knew I would buy a Morelo or a Concorde. I also knew I wanted a Telma Retarder installed as I thought the brakes on a an Iveco Daily chassis were not likely to be that great when running close to all up weight and would need some assistance.

Hope you don’t me asking... why did you feel the braking system wouldn’t be up to the job?

 

[OurMoreloLife]

We are talking about Morelo here right.

And so you spotted my deliberate mistake! Well done.

The body panels are indeed aluminium bonded onto DOW STYROFOAM but the floor pan is (according to their website) "PREMIUM UNDERBODY - Thanks to its stable glass-fibre-reinforced plastic underbody, there's absolutely no need to worry about moisture or corrosion."

 

[CazPaul]

They are. They’re extremely well built.

There may be fibreglass on the skirts but I expect the same would be true on a Morelo.

Yes that's what I thought, I got the impression that @OurMoreloLife was saying the Concorde dealer said he couldn't fit a retarder because the van is fibreglass.

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[OurMoreloLife]

Yes that's what I thought, I got the impression that @OurMoreloLife was saying the Concorde dealer said he couldn't fit a retarder because the van is fibreglass.

Sorry, it's Monday and getting late, you are not mistaken, that is what I said. Maybe a Concorde is fibreglass then; I really don't remember all that info. As I had selected the Morelo brand I was able to dump all that info I wouldn't need to store - old brains hurt faster. Forgive me?

 

[Southdowners]

Maybe a Concorde is fibreglass then; I really don't remember all that info

No, just to help refresh your memory... Concordes are not made from fibreglass.

 

[OurMoreloLife]

I better give this up; I'm just not good at it

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[Littlewheels]

Do Morelo do these?
Platinum Casement,34 Jewel Movement, Crystal Glass, Genuine Mississippi Crocodile Strap,Centurian Build Quality,Limited Edition.!!!!

 

[Southdowners]

Do they do a ladies version?

 

[Littlewheels]

Do they do a ladies version?

Only with Diamonds Encrusted all around the Bezel and Bracelet but I think they sold out quickly

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