Not Tyres Again!

[Rubberman]

Hi, I am a newbie here so please be gentle.

I have read a number of threads here regarding van vs camper tyres. I have Michelin CP tyres and they make the ride harsh IMO.

My question is…..has anyone experienced van tyres actually deforming when left standing for a couple of months as my van does over winter? I know CP tyres are designed to counteract this but is it a real issue?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Landy Andy]

My van is on van winter tyres, and has periods where it has stood for a couple of months. Wouldn’t think much longer than that though. We try to do something each month, but no tyres issues. All positive for us.

 

[dunnah01]

Most vans we're laid up for extended periods last year due to Covid but there's no real chatter about extra punctures so I suspect van tyres are fine. I'll stick with CPs until they wear out and then see which way the wind blows

 

[pappajohn]

Maybe these are what you need.
The ramp keeps the tyres shape preventing flat spots.

https://images.app.goo.gl/QNukVED6i9Vvcy377

 

[Rubberman]

Maybe these are what you need.
The ramp keeps the tyres shape preventing flat spots.

https://amzn.eu/d/eWCTAqd

Hi, can’t open that link for some reason?

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[Hettie's Crew]

If you intend to leave it for an extended period just pump the tyres up hard.
The only reason CP tyre manufacturers claim they are better is because they’re pumped up so high.

 

[Lenny HB]

If my van is sitting longer than a few weeks I take for a 15-20 mile drive. I have standard van winter tyres on a 4.5t van.

 

[denisejoe]

What pressures are in the tyres

 

[Rubberman]

What pressures are in the tyres

The Michelin CP’s are recommend to be at 80psi but they are still hard at lower pressures.

 

[Lenny HB]

What pressures are in the tyres

Do you mean mine of the OP?

Mine are as recommended by the tyre manufacturer:
56 psi Front, axle load 1930kg
69 psi Rear, axle load 2300 kg

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[Rubberman]

Will I need to change the spare as well? It has never been used. It is a Michelin Agilis CP. I am considering the Toyo Observe and Conti VanContact.

 

[donkey]

Will I need to change the spare as well? It has never been used. It is a Michelin Agilis CP. I am considering the Toyo Observe and Conti VanContact.

I did not when I changed to a set of Yokohama last year. My thinking was, the spare has never had direct sunshine so the degradation from UV was negligible. I am happy to run it for as long as it would take me to source a replacement Yokohama.

Geoff

 

[Landy Andy]

My spare is an odd one.

 

[Lenny HB]

My spare is an odd one.

I always have a spare the same, avoids any problems if you have to call breakdown in France and Spain where they won't fit a tyre unless it is the same as the other other one the axle.

 

[Landy Andy]

I will be fitting my own. I don’t trust others.

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[Lenny HB]

I will be fitting my own. I don’t trust others.

If is safe to do so I would but you can't garranty you will get a puntcher in a safe spot.

 

[Landy Andy]

If it’s not safe then I wouldn’t stop. Just drive it a ruin the fitted tyre. Get safe put the spare on.

 

[Two Owl Ones]

we use these on our van, i buy them on ebay and fit them myself, if you have a good look you can get a good deal on them, when i park back on the drive i park on 4 thick rubber pads
https://www.maxxis.com/uk/tyre/vansmart-as-al2/

 

[Trevor Wbm]

Check the pressures before you spend any money. When I picked my van up it had 80psi all round, and rattled our teeth summat rotten. After getting advice on here and doing some research, it's running on 65 in the front and 80 in the back and is a much better ride.

 

[Rubberman]

Check the pressures before you spend any money. When I picked my van up it had 80psi all round, and rattled our teeth summat rotten. After getting advice on here and doing some research, it's running on 65 in the front and 80 in the back and is a much better ride.

Thanks Trevor. Are you using Michelin CP tyres because Michelin don’t seem to recommend lower pressures based on axle weights like Continental do. I will try lower pressures but many say it makes little difference on the Michelins.

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[BILL 875]

Hi, I have Mich campers on from new done 34000 5.5 years old now 4 mm tread left 58 lb front and 60 rear and I will replace when worn out none of this 5 Yr malarkey, will go for toyo observe when required.Bill

 

[TDub49]

Hi, I am a newbie here so please be gentle.

I have read a number of threads here regarding van vs camper tyres. I have Michelin CP tyres and they make the ride harsh IMO.

My question is…..has anyone experienced van tyres actually deforming when left standing for a couple of months as my van does over winter? I know CP tyres are designed to counteract this but is it a real issue?

Thanks in advance.

Apologies if you have already seen this, but this article might help: https://www.caravanguard.co.uk/news/caravan-guard-guide-on-motorhome-tyres-11984/

 

[Steve-N]

Also a point to consider is because CP rated tyres have reinforced side walls (stating the obvious) but . .

Reinforced side walls also help minimize any side to side rocking movement in the van when parked and your in it.

Standard van tyres may not provide this effect as much.

 

[Garfields]

Hi, I have Mich campers on from new done 34000 5.5 years old now 4 mm tread left 58 lb front and 60 rear and I will replace when worn out none of this 5 Yr malarkey, will go for toyo observe when required.Bill

But have you checked when the tyre was manufactured?
Tyres could easily be a year or more older than when the van was registered.
While I agree with not rushing out to replace at five years old I do inspect them much closer as they get older.
Any sign of cracking starting between the tread and they go.
I only mention this as I was out having four replacements fitted this morning. Pocket £524 lighter
Loads of tread left but cracking starting.
All part of the fun of motor homing

 

[Trevor Wbm]

Thanks Trevor. Are you using Michelin CP tyres because Michelin don’t seem to recommend lower pressures based on axle weights like Continental do. I will try lower pressures but many say it makes little difference on the Michelins.

Just checked, Continental.

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[Trackman]

Will I need to change the spare as well? It has never been used. It is a Michelin Agilis CP. I am considering the Toyo Observe and Conti VanContact.

We have Conti Vancontact Eco tyres on our T6.1 PVC, and have found them pretty good for economy, noise etc. They managed well in snow last winter in Scotland too!

 

[Raymond Bonello]

Hi, I have Mich campers on from new done 34000 5.5 years old now 4 mm tread left 58 lb front and 60 rear and I will replace when worn out none of this 5 Yr malarkey, will go for toyo observe when required.Bill

That is what I have on mine TOYO. 60psi all round and no problems.

 

[Lenny HB]

Hi, I have Mich campers on from new done 34000 5.5 years old now 4 mm tread left 58 lb front and 60 rear and I will replace when worn out none of this 5 Yr malarkey, will go for toyo observe when required.Bill

Replaced the Michelin CP's at 3 years & 25,000 fronts were down to 4mm rear to 4.5mm.
Couldnt stand the complete lack of grip & rock hard ride. Lowerng the pressure didn't make any difference.

By comparison the Toyo's are dream, they do wear faster & mpg is down a couple of mpg. Small price for decent grip & it's offset by the tyres being 50 quid cheaper for each tyre.

 

[Jamesh]

Also a point to consider is because CP rated tyres have reinforced side walls (stating the obvious) but . .

Reinforced side walls also help minimize any side to side rocking movement in the van when parked and your in it.

Standard van tyres may not provide this effect as much.

No rocking in my van I'm afraid.. !

 

[Raymond Bonello]

Replaced the Michelin CP's at 3 years & 25,000 fronts were down to 4mm rear to 4.5mm.
Couldnt stand the complete lack of grip & rock hard ride. Lowerng the pressure didn't make any difference.

By comparison the Toyo's are dream, they do wear faster & mpg is down a couple of mpg. Small price for decent grip & it's offset by the tyres being 50 quid cheaper for each tyre.

Agree. Toyo much cheaper then exorbitant price of Michelin. Toyo give a good ride and when they need to be changed it will not break the bank. The only snag about them is that they are a bit harder.