Newbie buying a Hymer (1 Viewer)

bichonsthree

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Hi I have been running a thread recently and need some advice on these two models. If you have any thoughts/opinion please let me know as it is all very confusing for a newbie. If you think there is a better model I'd like to know but I do want the drop down bed over the cab and rear lounge to convert to a bed (or fixed bed at back). I am probably going to have to take a punt with a private seller. Thanks

1995 FIAT 2.5 TURBO DIESEL DUCATI 6 BERTH 644 HYMER


HYMER A CLASS B534 4 BERTH 1995 MOTORHOME FIAT DUCATO 2.5TD
 
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bichonsthree

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I'm a newbie
PS I tried a Camp 64 yesterday but no idea what it is worth and a hell of a beast. Fridge wasn't working and no oven
 
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bichonsthree

bichonsthree

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On Ebay. Not sure how to post link or if it's a good idea from that site
 

JeanLuc

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You have referred to either a rear lounge or a fixed rear bed (presumably over a garage). These are perhaps the most fundamental differences in motorhome layout and would not, in normal circumstances, be alternatives. I think the first step is to decide how you want to use the motorhome and what sort of life-style you follow: e.g. active outdoor, indoor lounging, need to carry extra gear etc. If you give us some ideas on this we may be able to offer some points of view.

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JockandRita

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@bichonsthree, Sarah, the B534 looks like it serves your desired layout, however, there is very little external locker storage area, and neither of the B654s, appear to have much either. :(

Good luck with the hunt. (y)

Jock. :)

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Lenny HB

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I assume they are these two.

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As Philip say depends how you are going to use the van, neither van has a garage which quite a few of us prefer as you can stores bikes out of site and it gives a lot more storage. I personaly prefer a fixed bed as you get a more comfortable bed and no arguments if one of you wants to retire early.

The B534, the seller says he is a trader but states "No Warranty" he can't have it both ways, I would tread carefully with that one.
 
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I'd jump in the car and start looking at real vans.
There's no substitute for getting out there and viewing as many as possible.

Travelling along the M5, you've got Martin's in Exeter, Chelston's in Wellington, Somerset motorhome centre in Taunton. A little further and you've Highbridge Caravans, West Country motorhomes, NSV Caravans. Next junction you've got Davan caravans and JMT Leisure.
In the general area you've also got Webbs in Warminster and Clearway motorhomes nr Somerton.

Even if the vans are mostly out of your price bracket, you'll get plenty of experience of what's good/appealing and what's not....

I don't know if this is your first van, I think it takes a lot of time, patience and legwork to get a good one.
I'm a big fan of Hymer, think you could well be on the right track... however, I'm not sure I'd go for any off the vehicles you've listed (from what I can see in the pictures)... there are certainly some great examples out there (maybe not for sale at this moment), this is where patience comes in - just be vigilant for new listing and be willing to travel (and sometimes disappointed)

Good luck with it !
 
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bichonsthree

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I have trawled around quite a lot of motorhome specialist but they are all very expensive and it is confusing going in and out of vans. I know I want an overhead cab and the back lounge area will be a permanent bed area too.

Have found this on the B534
  • FIAT
  • Date of first registration 01 February 2005
  • Year of manufacture 1995
  • Cylinder capacity (cc) 2500cc
  • CO₂Emissions Not available
  • Fuel type DIESEL
  • Vehicle status Not taxed
  • Vehicle colour WHITE
  • Vehicle type approval Not available
  • Wheelplan 2 AXLE RIGID BODY
  • Revenue weight 3490kg

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Have you considered something like this ?
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The seller's open to offers, just my opinion but you get much more van for your money.
You don't get the ' classic' look but the 2.8jtd engine is a joy compared to the older 2.5tdi....
 

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Have you considered something like this ?
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The seller's open to offers, just my opinion but you get much more van for your money.
You don't get the ' classic' look but the 2.8jtd engine is a joy compared to the older 2.5tdi....

That looks clean...some of the others well grim IMO... give me a tent any day:giggle:
 
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bichonsthree

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Hi thanks. I have just spoken to the seller of the B534 who seems to be unaware vehicles should be on a SORN (as far as I understand it) if untaxed but I may be wrong. He says he took it in part exchange and I can go and see it if I want to.

Thanks for the info re the Hymer Swing. However I am in North Devon and he is Dumfries! Lovely looking van though

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Over the years I have had both a b644 & b514, they were both 2001,so storage was good as they had double floors. As others
Have said they are really good vans construction wise so as long as the deals right go for it. Just my opinion on Hymers
We are looking for one ourselves

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bichonsthree

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Hi does anyone know anything about this one? Seller advising it is better than Hymer?!
 

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Niesmann & Bischoff are part of the Hymer Group. They are the top of the range

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bichonsthree

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Just wanted to say a big THANK YOU to all the people who have helped. I am now the proud owner of the Niesmann Bischoff Flair Life A Class - was knocked out by it!! It is beautiful, spacious - which must be an optical illusion as I have just compared the size to the Voyager Swift I nearly bought and it is smaller.

The condition was great, the lock fantastic, the windscreen ENORMOUS but like a viewing platform to see the countryside going by. MOT'd for a whole year.

Just have to sort out insurance now .. so now doubt I'll be back with lots of queries - I will be joining the c and c club and possibly the cc club too.

The dogs will love it (I hope) and it will forthwith be known as the bichonmobile
 

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Just wanted to say a big THANK YOU to all the people who have helped. I am now the proud owner of the Niesmann Bischoff Flair Life A Class - was knocked out by it!! It is beautiful, spacious - which must be an optical illusion as I have just compared the size to the Voyager Swift I nearly bought and it is smaller.

The condition was great, the lock fantastic, the windscreen ENORMOUS but like a viewing platform to see the countryside going by. MOT'd for a whole year.

Just have to sort out insurance now .. so now doubt I'll be back with lots of queries - I will be joining the c and c club and possibly the cc club too.

The dogs will love it (I hope) and it will forthwith be known as the bichonmobile
I am really pleased for you Sarah. Well done. (y)

Cheers,

Jock. :)
 
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bichonsthree

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Hi

I'm not sure of the name of the model range and model - it is just described as Flair Life A class RHD


Does the C and CC offer insurance and breakdown?

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They do - but I don't think you will like their price's. Contact Comfort Insurance and compare quotes.
Shop around, it could save you hundreds of pounds
 

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The thing to check with comfort is will the windscreen cover be enough for your A class screen, we changed to Safe guard for this reason.
Enjoy your new van (y)

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