New Tolls in Portugal (1 Viewer)

[keith]

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[hilldweller]

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Huh - why don't they just put up signs "Tourists not welcome due to the stupidity of the toll designers".

Red Ken managed a better system for London which did not involve masses of toll booths.

 

[keith]

Huh - why don't they just put up signs "Tourists not welcome due to the stupidity of the toll designers".

Red Ken managed a better system for London which did not involve masses of toll booths.

It does look as they are making it more complicated by adding a complication to the existing MW toll system.

It doesn't include the A22 along the Algarve so that's a plus for us. :thumb:
Many of the new tolls seem to be further up country.

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[christine1310]

Portugese Tolls

They should have followed the Swiss example and make everyone who wants to use the motorways buy a 10 Euros 'vignette' to stick on the windscreen. Will people coming into Portugal from Spain on the A25 (Salamanca to Lisbon road) have to hire a device at the border? Or will you have to drive into the nearest town and get one from the post office - great fun!!!!!

 

[hilldweller]

They should have followed the Swiss example and make everyone who wants to use the motorways buy a 10 Euros 'vignette'

You can bet the kid's inheritance the plonkers were steam rollered by the makers of the electronic toll equipment that doing it *their* way would maximise the payback and minimise the expenditure.

We are on the brink. Loads of mutterings about pay per mile, for the good of the environment of course.

 

[Douglas]

I remember a story that claimed that the Algarve had an agreement with a German company (Siemens I think) to fit and maintain traffic lights on the Algarve.

The the Germans screwed them and after a year or two the Portuguese stopped paying but could not keep up with the maintenance of the lights, if you were down that way about 4 or 5 years ago you might remember the broken lights all over the place.

Its easy to forget that Portugal is only 40 years away from its last dictator and still has third world thinking in places.

Doug...

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[hilldweller]

or two the Portuguese stopped paying but could not keep up with the maintenance of the lights, if you were down that way
Doug...

I've never been to Portugal.

But the maintenance, I've seen the pattern in machinery. Proprietary electronics probably CANBUS with only the German's having CANBUS diagnostics. So the poor Portuguese are totally at their mercy. Buy expensive new control modules or fly in Germans with their CANBUS diagnostics on their laptops or both.

That's the way it works, minimum tender price, screw the b^%$£$%ds on maintenance.

Small consolation for motorists, the EU forced the manufacturers to make some of the vehicle CANBUS a published standard.

Good news for the UK, Rolls Royce and BAE do the same for their products.