New 2.3 Multijet Deisel Engine

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Thinkin of buying a Burstner A class with the above engine. Has it enough grunt to move a big motorhome and more importantly with a toad?
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I have a 2012 2.3 Fiat multi jet. with a 3650kg max all up weight.

I also tow a motorcycle with around a total weight of trailer and bike of 400kg.

It pulls well and really digs in going up the hills. Not to many gear changes :):)

But for a toad I suspect bigger is better (y)(y)
 

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Our Chieftain ( 5.25 tonnes ) has a 2.3 ltr in it.. AND we tow to the absolute max the chassis will allow of 1 tonne. ( Smart Car on a trailer )
When we are not towing it will cruise along quite happily at 70 if we wanted to ( tend to set the cruise control to an indicated 55 giving a true speed of 52 mph.. we have found that the best for economy.
The only time I have to chase gears is up looonnnggg steep inclines..

Previous van was a 4.1 tonne Miller fitted with the 2.8 engine.. Gotta say we can detect very little difference ( there is a difference but nowt worth writing home about )
 

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Our Chieftain ( 5.25 tonnes ) has a 2.3 ltr in it.. AND we tow to the absolute max the chassis will allow of 1 tonne. ( Smart Car on a trailer )
When we are not towing it will cruise along quite happily at 70 if we wanted to ( tend to set the cruise control to an indicated 55 giving a true speed of 52 mph.. we have found that the best for economy.
The only time I have to chase gears is up looonnnggg steep inclines..

Previous van was a 4.1 tonne Miller fitted with the 2.8 engine.. Gotta say we can detect very little difference ( there is a difference but nowt worth writing home about )
John, just assumed that it had the 3 litre..... We just like more power and more power..... Megalomania rules! ;)
 

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I must admit I was extremely worried when I found out it was a 2.3, but was assured by just about everyone I spoke to it would be fine.. Glad I took the advice (y)
 
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Im thinking of changing van .At the moment have 2.8jtd .great drive .but thinking long term .2.8 cambelt :( .Am i right in thinking 2.3 is a camchain .Had this van 10years from new .Hopefully next van will last same .
 

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We have a 2.3 multi jet chucking out 150hp (required for auto gearbox) & I wouldn't recommend it for towing. Before that we had a 3 ltr in our 1999 Hymer & we did use that to tow a Fiat Punto which I hardly noticed was there. So as previously advised I'd go for the 3ltr
 

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I was going to ask this question next year - but happy to see it here!
Am going to get a new 5000kg tag axle van - never going to tow - and tossing up between the 2.3 150bhp or the 3 l.
Fairly sure I'll stick with the manual box - again cost and weight!

3l is a lot of extra dosh and more weight. But I worry about the 2.3 being sufficient! Will be doing a lot of driving so mpg also in the equation - it's still my biggest question - apart from what colour leather to have!!!
 

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I was going to ask this question next year - but happy to see it here!
Am going to get a new 5000kg tag axle van - never going to tow - and tossing up between the 2.3 150bhp or the 3 l.
Fairly sure I'll stick with the manual box - again cost and weight!

3l is a lot of extra dosh and more weight. But I worry about the 2.3 being sufficient! Will be doing a lot of driving so mpg also in the equation - it's still my biggest question - apart from what colour leather to have!!!
If you aren't towing the 2.3 is great and will cruise all day at 70mph. It'll also go a lot faster if need be (some prats don't like being overtaken by a motorhome)
 

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I was going to ask this question next year - but happy to see it here!
Am going to get a new 5000kg tag axle van - never going to tow - and tossing up between the 2.3 150bhp or the 3 l.
Fairly sure I'll stick with the manual box - again cost and weight!

3l is a lot of extra dosh and more weight. But I worry about the 2.3 being sufficient! Will be doing a lot of driving so mpg also in the equation - it's still my biggest question - apart from what colour leather to have!!!
Last van was 3 litre, this one is 2.3 150 and both about the same weight. Fuel consumption is not a lot different at about 26mpg. Don't have a heavy right foot though
 

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Im thinking of changing van .At the moment have 2.8jtd .great drive .but thinking long term .2.8 cambelt :( .Am i right in thinking 2.3 is a camchain .Had this van 10years from new .Hopefully next van will last same .
No mate.. the 2.3 has a cam belt.. Recommended change at 7 years
 

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I've not done any research to confirm this but I suspect that the latest 2.3 has as much grunt as some of the more than 10/15 year old 2.8/3litres as they seem to get much more power out of modern engines. However I have a 4.5 ton 2010 AutoTrail Savannah and I'm glad I have the 3 litre. It goes really well.
 

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Given the choice in the current van, would have gone for the 3 litre (it's a man thing - bigger is better) but it would have meant a long wait and being built to order plus a lot more dosh. The alternative was a brand new van, in stock and ready to be delivered very shortly after ordering.

The 2.3 150 is OK, though I have had it remapped. The big difference was the comparative lack of torque compared with the (also remapped) 3 litre lump.
 

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I have the 3.0 litre in my 4 tonne Geist Spirit and I'm really pleased with it.

It obviously has more torque than all the 2.3's I've driven, I find no need to change down at all at inclines.
 
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