Motorhome Payload

[Tcodd]

Hi All
Advise help needed.We have just viewed an chausson 638 EB.2018 plate.For 45 K.lovely
Condition.I have a concern on the payload.only a spare 300 kilos.we intend to travel to Europe for couple of months.
We also have 2 large dogs.Questions I am hoping someone can help me with is
Is this make and model any good for the price.Also how strict is it to abide to the pay load.I have a c1 on my license
So is it possible to increase the payload.And if possible how easy to do and how expensive.
Any advice would be great.
Thanks Tim

 

[Jamesh]

Are you sure??

The 2017 model is 693kg?

Did you see the plate?

Cheers James

 

[Lenny HB]

Price looks quite good there is one listed by a dealer at 51½k.
300kg is nothing like enough payload being on a Ford chassis it should be easy to uprate to 4000kg, two companies can do the paperwork SV Tech cost £312 & Van Weight Engineering at £175 with the Ford I think its just a paper exercise, Both companies with give advice & tell you what you can go to. VED will come down from £280 to £165.
Be prepared for DVLA to take weeks to process it.

 

[pappajohn]

I have a concern on the payload.only a spare 300 kilos.we intend to travel to Europe for couple of months.

I would say for a couple of months you're going need that much EACH!
Being more than 5% will mean unloading at the roadside and getting a fine. You will have to arrange for your stuff to be collected.
More than 15% (I think) and the van will not be allowed to continue and will be impounded ....with a big fine

 

[Emmit]

And you can't leave the country with a sub 3500kgs van loaded at plus 3500kgs onto the Continent until such time as DVLA supply you with a V5C showing an increased max weight.
To do so would run the risk of wrath 'over there' by the authorities, should you be stopped or God forbid, have an accident.

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[POH]

Was thinking of up plating ours but going to spain in April given the delays of dvla would it be best to wait until I come back and have quite a few weeks booked in uk

 

[Lenny HB]

Was thinking of up plating ours but going to spain in April given the delays of dvla would it be best to wait until I come back and have quite a few weeks booked in uk

Toss a coin, I think I would wait until you come back.

 

[suavecarve]

Was thinking of up plating ours but going to spain in April given the delays of dvla would it be best to wait until I come back and have quite a few weeks booked in uk

If you fill everything out for van weight engineering, you could be in a position to actually send everything off recorded delivery tomorrow or the day after.
On the presumption you are going to uprate anyway, why not crack on with it and hope it comes back by April.
If it doesnt you are no worse off

Edit: I should add i have sent mine off on Monday this week and going on holiday late March. I have copies of my V5 in case it doesnt come back in time

 

[Tcodd]

Thanks for the advice.
If we up the payload.Does that mean you then have to have the c1 to drive.

 

[Antique]

Sent our up plating to DVLA 1st week of December... not a peep as yet but fingers crossed

All the best
Antique

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[Dunnster]

Dvla lead time might surprise you - in a good way!

Van weight engineering were great to deal with and super quick to sort the paperwork for my upplate. Was expecting terrible lead times from DVLA, but it was something like 17 days from posting just before Christmas to receiving the revised V5 early Jan.

My insurer wouldnt cover the upplate which needed air assist and considered it as modifications so I’ve had to change insurer. Now have better breakdown cover on the new policy.

 

[ambulancekidd]

Uprating would be your best bet to gain payload.

 

[pappajohn]

Thanks for the advice.
If we up the payload.Does that mean you then have to have the c1 to drive.

Over 3500kg you have to have C1 whether it's 'Grandfather rights' or C1 test taken.
That then allows up to 7500kg.

 

[Lenny HB]

On the presumption you are going to uprate anyway, why not crack on with it and hope it comes back by April.
If it doesnt you are no worse off

He will, he won't have a V5 to take with him. If anything happens, police won't do anything until they have seen the V5.

 

[Tcodd]

Will it effect the resale.If up the payload and need the c1.
Or would I need to put the pay load back down.

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[suavecarve]

He will, he won't have a V5 to take with him. If anything happens, police won't do anything until they have seen the V5.

A photo of it has sufficed for me on the 2 occasions I have required it

 

[Lenny HB]

Will it effect the resale.If up the payload and need the c1.
Or would I need to put the pay load back down.

I don't think so, but it's easy to put it back down, you just need to weigh it empty and send the ticket with the correct form to DVLA.

 

[Lenny HB]

A photo of it has sufficed for me on the 2 occasions I have required it

I had a car broken into once Gemdarms wouldn't give me a report until they had seen the V5, of course it was across the other side of Lyon in my briefcase in my customer's office.
Not tried giving them a copy, but I will admit because DVLA took so long upgrading my last van I went to France with a colour copy, you could hardly tell it from the original.

When giving advice on the forum I tend to stick to the rules as if you say a copy will be fine, he's bound to get an awkward Gendarm who wants the original.

 

[Howard B]

Was thinking of up plating ours but going to spain in April given the delays of dvla would it be best to wait until I come back and have quite a few weeks booked in uk

My paperwork took 5 weeks, but that included the Christmas peroid

 

[Tcodd]

I will call sv TEC tomorrow to see what's possible.With all things considered.And the fact we want to use it for a couple of months trip to europe.we have a viewing on Monday to see a 2015 Carthage 143 A class.would that be a better option for another 10 k.
Sorry for so many questions.
But a lot of money to get it wrong.Thanks Tim
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[suavecarve]

When giving advice on the forum I tend to stick to the rules as if you say a copy will be fine, he's bound to get an awkward Gendarm who wants the original.

Appreciating that, but I doubt many in this country carry their original V5, insurance and MOT either, and you are to show them if required.

Obviously that doesnt make any sense at all, as leaving your V5 in your vehicle is not the greatest of moves if the vehicle were stolen, (in UK) so they invented the HORT/1 or 7 day wonder in this country. They may not have a similar system but I would suspect 9/10 when spoken to in an agreeable manner, would accept the copy.
The other time I didnt have my V5 was when I had fags stolen from my car and had to make a report without it (pre mobile phones) and luckily the phrase "Je suis un gendarme d'Anglais" got me past the winning post on that one.

 

[n8ess]

Not wanting to hijack the post, could I ask if purchasing a new 6.3 PVC, would there be an additional cost to up plaiting? What would be the maximum allowed?

 

[Jamesh]

Are you sure on that payload does seem very light?

3200kg for empty van which isn't even a 6 berth...?

 

[Jamesh]

Not wanting to hijack the post, could I ask if purchasing a new 6.3 PVC, would there be an additional cost to up plaiting? What would be the maximum allowed?

3850kg

4000kg with heavier springs and tyres

Fiat I presume?

 

[Lenny HB]

Not wanting to hijack the post, could I ask if purchasing a new 6.3 PVC, would there be an additional cost to up plaiting? What would be the maximum allowed?

Depends if it is on the light or heavy chassis. With a Fiat the light chassis can go to 3850kg, the heavy (maxi) 4250kg.

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[Lenny HB]

Appreciating that, but I doubt many in this country carry their original V5, insurance and MOT either, and you are to show them if required.

Not a legal requirement to carry them in the UK but it is in other countries.

 

[suavecarve]

Not a legal requirement to carry them in the UK but it is in other countries.

It is. It just isnt enforced, somewhat like breathaliser in France used to be.

Legal obligations of drivers and riders

What you need to do before you can drive a car or ride a motorcycle - driving licence, registering your vehicle, insurance, vehicle tax, MOT

www.gov.uk

Showing your driving documents​

If a police officer asks you to, you must be able to show:

• your driving licence
• a valid insurance certificate
• a valid MOT certificate (if your vehicle needs one)

If you don’t have the documents with you at the time, you may be asked to take them to a police station within 7 days.

 

[Howard B]

3850kg

4000kg with heavier springs and tyres

Fiat I presume?

I was quoted a bit more than that on a light chassis with spring air assist and heavier rated tyres.

 

[Lenny HB]

It is. It just isnt enforced, somewhat like breathaliser in France used to be.

Legal obligations of drivers and riders

What you need to do before you can drive a car or ride a motorcycle - driving licence, registering your vehicle, insurance, vehicle tax, MOT

www.gov.uk

Showing your driving documents​

If a police officer asks you to, you must be able to show:

• your driving licence
• a valid insurance certificate
• a valid MOT certificate (if your vehicle needs one)

If you don’t have the documents with you at the time, you may be asked to take them to a police station within 7 days.

Also no requirement for V5 which is what we were talking about.

 

[Tea Bag]

A photo of it has sufficed for me

Hi.
Me to.Lots to tell you when the e-mail arrives from ??????.
Tea Bag

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