- Apr 13, 2019
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We have a 2000/2001 fiat Ducato 1.9td coachbulit motorhome with 6 fitted seatbelts.
4 are inertia type forward facing and 2 are lap belts rear facing.
Our layout is mid table to seat 4, with a second table and 2 opposite single seats to the near side rear.
Bathroom is to the rear and kitchen is mid van nearside, opposite the 4 person table and seating.
To the front is the overcab bed.
What details we have state this is a 5 berth ( 2 overcab double / treble - ? it’s massive), 2 on the double mid dinette and a single at the rear on the single dinette.
There are usually only 2 of us plus a small dog travelling, but occasionally could be 4 , split 2 adults and 2 small children under 9 years, plus the dog.
I have looked at the vin plate under the bonnet and the following is recorded on the plate:
1. 3200kg
2. 4800kg
3. 1690kg
4. 1750kg.
I have been following the supposedly motorhome payload scandal discussions and the details as posted by Jim with the 180kg guide given for essentials, but I am unsure how to work out the MIRO and don’t know what this even is.
The van was bought pre owned and with a sort of generic produced instructions, which to be fair are fairly good and informative , BUT...
The stated maximum unladen mass is 2605kg
The stated maximum gross mass is 3400kg
The stated payload is 796kg
The stated towing weight is 850kg
The paperwork we have has / was part produced in conjunction with the importing and selling dealers and is a generalisation of instructions taken from motorhomes available around this time of manufacture.
Our conversion is a Ci camping car and the model is known as an Arabella, supplied when new by Don Amott leisure, Burton.
The paperwork does contain some very good guidelines on loading and weights, but having seen the great interest in payloads and potential problems with insurance and the law, I want to be absolutely accurate and understand what we can carry and most importantly, legally and safely.
Sorry if this is a long post but having had some excellent advice from Funsters to other topics, I have tried to be as detailed as possible to avoid further questions, which I really should have detailed in the first place with my post in way of an explanation.
I am confident I can work out what weights extras will be, and will be very strict on my calculations.
We have no sat tv, levelling system, fixed side awning cassette or other, and no oven, but we do take a purpose made microwave,
Don’t take bikes but have a bike rack at the rear and don’t bother with a TV either.
All other items are easily covered in Jim’s 180kg essential list.
If anyone can help me with the MIRO or give me advice on my actual usable payload based on the VIN plate details, I would be very grateful.
ManyThanks
Iain
4 are inertia type forward facing and 2 are lap belts rear facing.
Our layout is mid table to seat 4, with a second table and 2 opposite single seats to the near side rear.
Bathroom is to the rear and kitchen is mid van nearside, opposite the 4 person table and seating.
To the front is the overcab bed.
What details we have state this is a 5 berth ( 2 overcab double / treble - ? it’s massive), 2 on the double mid dinette and a single at the rear on the single dinette.
There are usually only 2 of us plus a small dog travelling, but occasionally could be 4 , split 2 adults and 2 small children under 9 years, plus the dog.
I have looked at the vin plate under the bonnet and the following is recorded on the plate:
1. 3200kg
2. 4800kg
3. 1690kg
4. 1750kg.
I have been following the supposedly motorhome payload scandal discussions and the details as posted by Jim with the 180kg guide given for essentials, but I am unsure how to work out the MIRO and don’t know what this even is.
The van was bought pre owned and with a sort of generic produced instructions, which to be fair are fairly good and informative , BUT...
The stated maximum unladen mass is 2605kg
The stated maximum gross mass is 3400kg
The stated payload is 796kg
The stated towing weight is 850kg
The paperwork we have has / was part produced in conjunction with the importing and selling dealers and is a generalisation of instructions taken from motorhomes available around this time of manufacture.
Our conversion is a Ci camping car and the model is known as an Arabella, supplied when new by Don Amott leisure, Burton.
The paperwork does contain some very good guidelines on loading and weights, but having seen the great interest in payloads and potential problems with insurance and the law, I want to be absolutely accurate and understand what we can carry and most importantly, legally and safely.
Sorry if this is a long post but having had some excellent advice from Funsters to other topics, I have tried to be as detailed as possible to avoid further questions, which I really should have detailed in the first place with my post in way of an explanation.
I am confident I can work out what weights extras will be, and will be very strict on my calculations.
We have no sat tv, levelling system, fixed side awning cassette or other, and no oven, but we do take a purpose made microwave,
Don’t take bikes but have a bike rack at the rear and don’t bother with a TV either.
All other items are easily covered in Jim’s 180kg essential list.
If anyone can help me with the MIRO or give me advice on my actual usable payload based on the VIN plate details, I would be very grateful.
ManyThanks
Iain
