Motorhome money maker

[barsteward]

How long before the inevitable happens, the comments on some social media sites lead me to think there's an awful lot of people out there that dont even know what licence they have let alone where the 5 kids 2 dogs and cuddly toys are going to be stored.

British systems catch overloaded trucks. See how they work

British systems catch overloaded trucks. See how they work

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[Jim]

People who run trucks or motorhomes overweight through ignorance or arrogance are probably the same people who ignore service schedules and never check tyre pressures. Can't come soon enough for me. Moneymaker? Maybe, Lifesaver and Awareness Raiser? Definitely.

 

[Minxy]

Only problem with the system is that it requires the Police to enforce it, so where are all these coppers going to come from? There aren't enough as it is!

 

[DuxDeluxe]

People who run trucks or motorhomes overweight through ignorance or arrogance are probably the same people who ignore service schedules and never check tyre pressures. Can't come soon enough for me. Moneymaker? Maybe, Lifesaver and Awareness Raiser? Definitely.

Spot on there, Jim......

 

[barsteward]

Only problem with the system is that it requires the Police to enforce it, so where are all these coppers going to come from? There aren't enough as it is!

They will probably adopt the French System Letter through the post 12 months after the event with fine but unlike the French, points or license revocation.

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[fullfat]

Hot air again
Weight sensors have been on M6 just after spaghetti junction for years lol

 

[2657]

They will probably adopt the French System Letter through the post 12 months after the event with fine but unlike the French, points or license revocation.

At the moment the weight measurements from this system are not enforceable for prosecutions and a visit to a calibrated weighbridge is necessary. The system is used to target overweight vehicles for further checks making the stop and weigh that is already in use more efficient.

For motorhomes and other vehicles that do not have an operators licence it will increase the chances of being stopped and weighed but as others have pointed out the system still relies on DVSA operatives being available, police not needed these days.

For vehicles on operators licences then I would imagine that even if no prosecution is instigated the overload or overspeed will be noted and may be used in the OCRS which can lead to more detailed investigation of the operator. I don't think that this is the case at present but I am sure that it will be as the accuracy of the system is proved.

 

[2657]

Hot air again
Weight sensors have been on M6 just after spaghetti junction for years lol

Yes they have been trialled in several places for a number of years but are now being installed at more and more locations.

 

[Onemanandhisdog]

I followed a Honda S2000 the other day with the biggest aftermarket rear wing I'd ever seen, it had a sticker across the back saying "Size does matter" Maybe at 70mph his "downforce" will add enough weight to get him pulled on a regular basis

 

[tacr2man]

More "policing" thru spin , as they are struggling to keep a lid on things , they have had quite a few of these sites dotted about the country , for a very long time , but manpower and running costs + maintenance are in short supply . Like the farcical "Police operation in progress " signs that have to be chained to lamposts etc to stop them getting nicked

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[Lenny HB]

I would love to see it fully operational to clamp down on the idiots that run grossly overloaded.
At the moment it is not going to have any effect on Motorhomes as it compares the reading to information on the DVSA database which I think only has the information for trucks.

 

[thebriars]

If they are installing these more and more, they must also have the infrastructure to stop and prosecute these vehicles.

I wonder why some assume it doesn't apply to motorhomes yet? Every vehicle is on the DVLA database and that data will be shared with the DVSA.

One doesn't need a weighbridge, they can use portable weightpads.

Near us is a trunk road where there is frequently a police and/or DVSA operation in progress.

 

[Wagoneer]

As has been mentioned above, the system is predominantly aimed at overweight heavy goods vehicles.

Overweight HGV's cause significantly much greater damage to the structure of the road, meaning that the service life of the road is greatly reduced....leading to more frequent repairs and in severe cases, complete replacement of the full depth road matrix.

Don't think an overloaded MH is going to trigger an investigation - the authorities are looking out for the big buggers who cause damage to the entire road network.

 

[wiljoy]

This could potentially be yet another cash cow along with parking and speeding fines.
No doubt it will be enforced by a loyal band of unpaid volunteers.

 

[Puddleduck]

I don't see the issue in this being used (enforcement etc a different matter as covered in previous posts). If you break the regulations / law then be prepared for the punishment.

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[Lenny HB]

This could potentially be yet another cash cow along with parking and speeding fines.
No doubt it will be enforced by a loyal band of unpaid volunteers.

I don't see what is wrong with enforcing the law.

 

[MisterB]

Interesting, wouldnt surprise me if en route to a weighstation to confirm weight, if someone dumped all the excess water they were carrying ....

 

[Lenny HB]

Interesting, wouldnt surprise me if en route to a weighstation to confirm weight, if someone dumped all the excess water they were carrying ....

Most people only carry what their tanks hold so it won't be excess.
But I did on the last van as it only had a 100 Lt tank so I carried 40 Lt in the garage as well.

 

[jezport]

For motorhomes as they are not commercial vehicles axleweights are not on the V5 so surely they cant check them this way

 

[MisterB]

Most people only carry what their tanks hold so it won't be excess.
But I did on the last van as it only had a 100 Lt tank so I carried 40 Lt in the garage as well.

So you dont think emptying the tank en route would reduce the weight and in doing so perhaps call into question the validity and accuracy/callibration of the roadside installation?

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[Lenny HB]

So you dont think emptying the tank en route would reduce the weight and in doing so perhaps call into question the validity and accuracy/callibration of the roadside installation?

I was just making light of your terminology. Also I never run overweight.

 

[gus-lopez]

I wonder why some assume it doesn't apply to motorhomes yet? Every vehicle is on the DVLA database and that data will be shared with the DVSA.

True but the vosa/dvsa or whatever they are called do not have the authority to stop private vehicles they are required to have a copper do it .

cause significantly much greater damage to the structure of the road, meaning that the service life of the road is greatly reduced...

Now you are kidding me. The state of the UK roads for the last 40 years against the amount paid to use them we should be driving on aircraft runways not potholed Lebanese bomb craters.
If they cannot be built to cater easily with 44 tonnes then how will they cope if double B's at 80 tonnes are legalised like they have been here in Spain ?

 

[addoaddo]

The sensors on the motorways are not linked to the type of vehicles rather they measure the axle weight which is generall constant across all HGVs. It catches out HGV that run with the tag axle up to save money.

Very unlikely to cat an overweight motorhome

 

[Emmit]

True but the vosa/dvsa or whatever they are called do not have the authority to stop private vehicles they are required to have a copper do it .
Now you are kidding me. The state of the UK roads for the last 40 years against the amount paid to use them we should be driving on aircraft runways not potholed Lebanese bomb craters.
If they cannot be built to cater easily with 44 tonnes then how will they cope if double B's at 80 tonnes are legalised like they have been here in Spain ?

Gus, Ordinarily, you and I are singing off the same hymn (how long before that word becomes non gender specific? I digress) sheet.

DVSA or whoever they are that used to be VOSA no longer need my illustrious ex colleagues to do the stopping. They can do it themselves.

 

[2657]

The sensors on the motorways are not linked to the type of vehicles rather they measure the axle weight which is generall constant across all HGVs. It catches out HGV that run with the tag axle up to save money.

Very unlikely to cat an overweight motorhome

Axle weights vary greatly on different commercial vehicles.

The sensors measure the weight, the linked ANPR camera identifies the vehicle and thus the legal axle weights.

Every tractor unit with a lift axle that I have operated has had a load sensor and will only lift the axle for short periods while maneuvering if over the set weight.

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