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Just a poof or two is nearer to the truth maybe??Oh just a puff or two I think (¬ the silver haired chap) ?
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Just a poof or two is nearer to the truth maybe??Oh just a puff or two I think (¬ the silver haired chap) ?
I agree with you regarding KF! I haven't used them for donkeys years because they have always been the most expensive option but on this occasion after much googling KF turned out to be the cheapest option for these particular tyres which were highly recommended overall! First time for donkeys years that KF were the cheapest option! Cheers!?I couldn't agree more, I enjoy a healthy debate, even if its an agree to disagree point which is being debated.
I'm flexible enough to apologise or have my mind changed if I think I'm wrong & I am often wrong lol.
I just base my opinions on experience & anyone who doesn't want to read what I write can simply pass on to the next post, easy.
Just why some folks get incandescent of something on here baffles me, especially when a post isn't aimed at them specifically.
Even when I disagree strongly with a mate, the minute the debate is over, put it behind you & enjoy each others company, that's always worked for me.
Kind regards....Robert.
Not getting involved in the benefits or otherwise of camper tyres but 2 questions.
Is a PVC a motorhome?
Has anybody bought a new PVC where the original commercial tyres have been changed to camper tyres?
Mine certainly had commercial tyres fitted.
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All Motorhomes are shown as a Motor Caravan on the V5 unless its a PVC where the converter has used a pre registered van and not had the V5 changed.1. I would say yes, but on my V5, it calls my Semi-integrated Rimor a "motorcaravan". I don't know how a PVC motorhome is described on a V5.
Kwikfit are odd, in that, the prices are very much lower if you order online and choose your local depot to fit, rather than get a price at the local depot.I agree with you regarding KF! I haven't used them for donkeys years because they have always been the most expensive option but on this occasion after much googling KF turned out to be the cheapest option for these particular tyres which were highly recommended overall! First time for donkeys years that KF were the cheapest option! Cheers!?
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1. I would say yes, but on my V5, it calls my Semi-integrated Rimor a "motorcaravan". I don't know how a PVC motorhome is described on a V5.
I suspect that there is a snobbery factor, mainly founded on length envy
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2. Never had a PVC, so sorry.
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Same with National tyres it's how the big companies operate. Halfords are the same with tyres not so bad on other products now. You used to go in the shelf price was a lot hight so get out your phone order it online and walk out with it at the lower price.Kwikfit are odd, in that, the prices are very much lower if you order online and choose your local depot to fit, rather than get a price at the local depot.
When I was considering Michelin Agilis Campers a couple of years ago, the online price was £110 fitted but when I enquired at the depot they were £164.
A lot of it comes down to what the chassis manufacturer fits. Generally Fiat camper chassis the 35t chassis has Conti Campers & the 4.5t Michelin Campers.My question relating to PVC's being motorhomes was largely rhetorical and asked mainly to illustrate my second question.
PVC's are motorhomes and are used in exactly the same way as other, possibly larger motorhomes, but are invariably supplied with the base van commercial tyres.
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A lot of it comes down to what the chassis manufacturer fits. Generally Fiat camper chassis the 35t chassis has Conti Campers & the 4.5t Michelin Campers.
Before anyone tears me to bits I did say generally and this tends to be the case in Germany where most European Motorhomes are made.
One part of the decision on tyres for me would include ride quality. My medium wheelbase 3.5T PVC was delivered with Continental vancontact 100 tyres with Fiat recommended tyre pressures of 60/65 psi front/rear. I had the van weighed and in discussion with Continental I run the pressures at 47/50 psi front/ rear. This lower pressure makes a very significant improvement to ride comfort.
The thought of fitting specific Campervan tyres with stiffer side walls and running at significant higher tyre pressures would fill me with dread. Has anyone made the switch either way and what was the effect on ride quality?
My van weighs about 3.2T on the road and is used at least once a month and I have had no problems with the tyres.
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OMG! I don't!
I can barely spelltirestyerstyres? I know nothing about them., except that they are usually black and round.
I am an ex-tugger who has been engined now for three years - and loving it. I have never had bad advice from anyone on here - although occasionally it is differed completely
What is good about Motorhomefun is exactly that. "Cut the red wire", "No, cut the blue", "NO, cut them both... and use an angle grinder." People don't give bad advice, they just advise on the basis of the best of their experience. So it gets a tad passionate.
Anyhoo. This thread has solidified what I am going to do when I need new boots. They will have side walls made of tungsten, a weight index of 85 tonnes and tread so deep you can hide in it.
Any recommendations? Or is the sensible thing to wait and see what new camper-appropriate tyre has been developed?
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As you are so passionate about the best tires, I thought you would be able to back up your opinion with facts, rather than a poke at my spelling ability.
Errr... I wasn't.
You spelt tyres correctly. I was making a joke about how little I know about tyres.
I don't want to ruin what I feel has been a very helpful subject so I'll go and find another topic somewhere else where I don't have to tread so carefully as this one may be getting a little high pressured.
Thanks all.
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Thanks for your input anyway. As you said it's been interesting and I'm guessing that we all know a lot more about tyres than we did before!Errr... I wasn't.
You spelt tyres correctly. I was making a joke about how little I know about tyres.
I don't want to ruin what I feel has been a very helpful subject so I'll go and find another topic somewhere else where I don't have to tread so carefully as this one may be getting a little high pressured.
Thanks all.
Are you sure you’re not getting tyred of the thread (tread)?Errr... I wasn't.
You spelt tyres correctly. I was making a joke about how little I know about tyres.
this one may be getting a little high pressured.
Thanks all.
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Not getting involved in the benefits or otherwise of camper tyres but 2 questions.
Is a PVC a motorhome?
Has anybody bought a new PVC where the original commercial tyres have been changed to camper tyres?
Mine certainly had commercial tyres fitted.
I confess I did not trawl through every post on this thread!!!!!!!Don't understand this thread!
The alternative to not fitting appropriate tyres is at the very least, an increased chance of a tyre failure, when you are trying to get somewhere. The very worst is an increased chance or wiping out your van and the occupants. If my handbook says I need a minimum of 800 kg per wheel, my paranoia orders me to go for 1200kg or higher!!
A cheap van tyre is a bit less than 100 quid. A tyre designed for a motorhome can be north of 150 quid. Total difference for four tyres is therefore about £200. My family is worth more than that!!
My question isn't whether, on balance, a moho or van tyre is a better idea - to me, it's bloody obvious. I would like to know funsters opinion on which motorhome tyre, best balances value with overall safety on the road.
I'm 225 75 16" Ducato Maxi 3800mm, 3500kg.
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I've Run Nexen tyres on Range Rover for the last 10000 miles,great tyres imo, the Landrover snobs pooh pooh them but I've found differentInteresting thread folks...even more so, as this week I removed the 225 75 16 Michelin Agilis camper tyres off my Tag axle A class after finding one cracking and starting to bulge/deform ….and replaced them with Nexen Roadian CT8 commercial tyres 121 load rating....Now to replace with the original Michelins would have cost around £1000...the Nexens cost £560 fully fitted....now I fully accept cost should not be a deciding factor although as you can see the saving is pretty significant...but I actually think the Nexens are better tyres...they have a higher load rating than the Michelins and when I inspected the Michelins when I had removed them against the Nexens it was quite surprising just how much more substantial the sidewalls were on the Nexens...also now having driven on them there seems a noticeable improvement in ride and feel...whether this is just due to them being new as opposed to the old Michelins I don't know...time will tell....all I can say is so far I am more than satisfied with my choice and decision and can highly recommend them for anyone looking to replace their tyres in the near future..
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