Motorbikes....what am I missing. (1 Viewer)

[GWAYGWAY]

Italian drivers have all got the pedal stuck on the floor, it was the determination to get passed me that was amusing, he had to do it He would have ending up in Rome had I not got bored.

 

[tonyidle]

I`ll Bet you get the timing wrong though?

Pete

I never owned one but looked after it for a friend. Given the usual problems with bikes of the time it did him proud. I rebuilt the engine at 70K and he went on to do another 50K+ before selling it (read that & weep parallel twin owners). It did succumb to the weirdest fault I have ever experienced on any engine. When first bought (S/H) he used it to travel from Manchester to Kendal and back when doing his teacher training course. One weekend he came to see me with the thing wheezing & popping & I eventually found the camshaft wasn't timed to the marks. When I came to re-time it the marks made no sense so I did it from scratch. He went away happy but I was at a loss to understand how a geared cam drive could suddenly be mis-timed. Anyway he made it back to Manchester but the following weekend it stopped completely about 5 miles from home. He asked me to recover it & (as you might have guessed) the cam timing was out. This time when I removed the camshaft to examine it the cam fell off the shaft. IIRC the shaft & drive gear were in one piece with the pair of cams pressed onto it. The interference fit had failed. There were no marks on the shaft or inside the cams and, when reassembled (hand push fit!!) it was difficult so spot the fact that that the assembly wasn't one-piece. Anyway a new cam+shaft etc cured it leaving me to try to understand how the egine had not only travelled 100+ miles after I re-timed it the first time but had also completed around 30K miles in his ownership with no issues. It was a Venom incidentally rather than the Thruxton in the pic.

 

[Jaws]

Buttons.. it is SOOOOO obvious you aint ever ridden a serious bike mate

When I was dispatching there was at least one car driver every single day who would try and drag you at traffic lights, or think they were faster than you ..

Sure, they were drier and yes, warmer during the winter, but not a hope in hell of being quicker than you

Having said that, travelling time was usually about the same in car, small van or indeed bike.
Why ?
Cos a car might average 200 - 300 miles inbetween fill up, while a bike might average 120ish between fill ups**
The time it takes to pull off, fill up pay and get back on the road very quickly swallows up any advantage the bike has in traffic etc

** Yes a lot of bikes and indeed cars have far greater range,, I am using figures based on when I was working in the game

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[buttons]

Buttons.. it is SOOOOO obvious you aint ever ridden a serious bike mate

When I was dispatching there was at least one car driver every single day who would try and drag you at traffic lights, or think they were faster than you ..

Sure, they were drier and yes, warmer during the winter, but not a hope in hell of being quicker than you

Having said that, travelling time was usually about the same in car, small van or indeed bike.
Why ?
Cos a car might average 200 - 300 miles inbetween fill up, while a bike might average 120ish between fill ups**
The time it takes to pull off, fill up pay and get back on the road very quickly swallows up any advantage the bike has in traffic etc

** Yes a lot of bikes and indeed cars have far greater range,, I am using figures based on when I was working in the game

Thanks for that Jaws.... that must be a nightmare when you are riding long distances, just 100 miles and you are looking for another filling station. I find it a pain having to stop every 400 miles.

 

[buttons]

Italian drivers have all got the pedal stuck on the floor, it was the determination to get passed me that was amusing, he had to do it He would have ending up in Rome had I not got bored.

I have said it before on here but driving on an Italian motorway south of Milan an ambulance flashed past me being tailgated by a Porsche using his headlights in an attempting to make the ambulance move over and let him passed.

 

[Jim]

The time it takes to pull off, fill up pay and get back on the road very quickly swallows up any advantage the bike has in traffic etc

It's not the filling up that slows the pit stops down, its the two fags before you put the lid back on.

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[buttons]

An E cigarette incorporated into the helmet should speed things up a bit.

 

[Jaws]

LOL !! Well as I gave up ( again ) on my birthday I will have to go with Buttons as I am now sucking on a vape thing !

 

[barsteward]

Dream on you lot.......car drivers don't give a shite how fast your two wheels can go, your fiat driver probably had his gas peddle stuck. If we had any interest then we would have duel racing on the tele. It just wouldn't have any audience......We just don't care...........dream on

Just for you buttons.

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[buttons]

Just for you buttons.

I'm sure those half dozen spectators enjoyed that. What happened to the no car can stay with a bike......

 

[barsteward]

You don't see many F1 cars on Buttercup Pass.

 

[Doctor Dave]

One of my sons rides a motorbike as it is the quickest way for him to get to the fire station when his alerter goes off in the middle of the night. Very often it's not a fire but a RTC (formerly known as a RTA) where they have to cut the roof off of a car so the ambulance crew can get the driver / passenger out, and very often there is a strong whiff of boozes coming from the car. My son never drinks alcohol !

Dave

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[Jaws]

Interestingly there is not a race track in the world where the track record is held by a bike.. On a race track 4 wheels rule the roost !

 

[Jaws]

And just watched the video..
A bit strange that.. you can tell it was a top gear thing.. How ?
An F1 car ( top of ALL the piles )
An out and out touring car.. heavily breathed up and close to the top of the pile
A bog standard road bike..
While the bike would never come near the F1 no matter what, I am wondering what the touring car would have done agin, say a WSB race bike ?
That would be about the equivalent twixt sport car and bike world

I remember a track day at Snetters
Now as mentioned ( repeatedly ) most of the time my weapon of choice is the Blackbird.. believe me, it aint no slouch ( as also mentioned, 0 - 60 about 2.4 seconds, top speed is governed to 184.6 )
So a few of us are out there... knee down, fairings scrapping.. having a jolly good time and thinking we are the mutts nuts
Then .... then......................
An F3 car came out to run test laps
JEEEEZZZUSS H CHRIST !!!!!!!!!
I thought I was standing still !!

 

[thehutchies]

I have said it before on here but driving on an Italian motorway south of Milan an ambulance flashed past me being tailgated by a Porsche using his headlights in an attempting to make the ambulance move over and let him passed.

Many years ago, heading down the A57 into Manchester, on the back of my mate's Z1000, we overtook an ambulance going flat out with its lights and siren going.
And found out that it had a police motorcycle escort in front.
The copper just shook his head

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[hilldweller]

Why try, .....

Because he's Italian and as you found, winding them up is one of life's great pleasures.

 

[hilldweller]

I feel safe enough .............

And in fact you are. Partly extra careful because you are new to it but mainly because of all your experience, by now you can sense danger and that is how we survive.

You are clearly hooked now so go enjoy it a lot and shed a tear for all the time you wasted on 4 wheels.

 

[tuscancouple]

We retired at 60 and both passed the bike test. We now tow a trailer behind the RV with our Harleys. I only wish we had started to ride bikes years ago! It's a great way of seeing the world and we've ridden in countries thougout Europe.

The RV is really not the ideal vehicle to visit small villiages, get down no through roads, etc, however the Harleys are. We have great fun and have met fellow riders at most places we have stayed.

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[GWAYGWAY]

I put topockita (walter mitty machine) the CG125 in the back of the van but do not seem to get it out very often, when I last did it misfired all the time until I put fresh fuel in.

I think it does bad thingd to the axle weight but maybe not, the springs do not go down much.

 

[Jaws]

Petrol does go off pretty quickly on occasion
I have it go duff in less than a year, on the other end of the stick I just drained a tank down that has had fuel in it for 7 years and it is still perfect

If you think the bike ( or genny or anything else that has petrol in it ) is not going to be used for a long time, it is worth investing in a bottle of fuel stabilizer

 

[Candapack]

I never owned one but looked after it for a friend. Given the usual problems with bikes of the time it did him proud. I rebuilt the engine at 70K and he went on to do another 50K+ before selling it (read that & weep parallel twin owners). It did succumb to the weirdest fault I have ever experienced on any engine. When first bought (S/H) he used it to travel from Manchester to Kendal and back when doing his teacher training course. One weekend he came to see me with the thing wheezing & popping & I eventually found the camshaft wasn't timed to the marks. When I came to re-time it the marks made no sense so I did it from scratch. He went away happy but I was at a loss to understand how a geared cam drive could suddenly be mis-timed. Anyway he made it back to Manchester but the following weekend it stopped completely about 5 miles from home. He asked me to recover it & (as you might have guessed) the cam timing was out. This time when I removed the camshaft to examine it the cam fell off the shaft. IIRC the shaft & drive gear were in one piece with the pair of cams pressed onto it. The interference fit had failed. There were no marks on the shaft or inside the cams and, when reassembled (hand push fit!!) it was difficult so spot the fact that that the assembly wasn't one-piece. Anyway a new cam+shaft etc cured it leaving me to try to understand how the egine had not only travelled 100+ miles after I re-timed it the first time but had also completed around 30K miles in his ownership with no issues. It was a Venom incidentally rather than the Thruxton in the pic.

I know I'm not what you might call mechanical, but can some of you please let me know I'm not the only one for whom this is a foreign language?

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[GWAYGWAY]

Petrol does go off pretty quickly on occasion
I have it go duff in less than a year, on the other end of the stick I just drained a tank down that has had fuel in it for 7 years and it is still perfect

If you think the bike ( or genny or anything else that has petrol in it ) is not going to be used for a long time, it is worth investing in a bottle of fuel stabilizer

I am getting some next time I go to the chainsaw dealer, The misfiring was a a gummy carb primary jet. Petrol is not petrol nowadays but something they make from a chemistry set with booze in it. Avgas is still good though, and 100 octane. I might drain my plane filter to check it out and not waste it.

 

[Jaws]

LOL !! I think I would be a bit careful using 100 octane fuel in a 125 !!! You may end up with an extra lump between your legs.. one that is sort of piston shaped LOL !!

( and afore anyone starts, this is only a joke !! )

 

[tonyidle]

I know I'm not what you might call mechanical, but can some of you please let me know I'm not the only one for whom this is a foreign language?

It's OK: I just made it up ............

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[GWAYGWAY]

LOL !! I think I would be a bit careful using 100 octane fuel in a 125 !!! You may end up with an extra lump between your legs.. one that is sort of piston shaped LOL !!

( and afore anyone starts, this is only a joke !! )

YEAH! YEAH! it would lead up the plugs but you can add it to unleaded to keep it alive over winter, premium does not have ethanol in it and lasts a bit longer.
You know very well the 100 octane is not more powerful it just has lead in it.

 

[Jaws]

Ok ok !!!
In actual fact, the occasional dose of the good stuff proly does a whole lot of good to the engine in general

 

[AlanDiggers]

Its all about the thrill and total sense of engagement. only drove cars and coaches for many years and 6 years ago took the plunge and passed the bike test. I now have a RoSPA Silver award

You need to put aside the minor inconvenience of the weather and just enjoy the sensation and engagement with nature and machine. Take care, ride defensively and assume car drivers can be one knife short of a picnic>

if you enjoy walking what is the first consideration, the walk or the weather?

Weather becomes less of a consideration with the right bike, the right fairing and the right togs.

I love and just thinking of buying another to replace my Triumph Tiger which I sold this time last year.

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[glenn2926]

Can't explain it. If you have never ridden you cannot understand it.

 

[Flook]

Come into this reading the first page then the lats one, so I may have missed a lot, ah well. Talk earlier on about cars doing more miles than bikes! someone forgot to mention unless I missed it in the pages 2-7, the fuel tank on a car holds more fuel than a bike, on ave a bike holds 18 litres while a car holds app 40l. Note before anyone mentions what theirs hold I have said ave average & app approximate so I reckon I may have covered most bases there. Anyways, my bike has a 16litre tank and I have an app mileage cover of 230 and fill with around 14.6l, I reset the mile trip and continue on. So if anyone works out what miles their car does to say 15l must be around the 150 or less mark, the average bike covers around 140 for the same, so no real difference in miles I reckon.

I belong to a bike club, there are plenty of guy's who have had an odd occurrence of interaction with the road, fields and of course other vehicles. I find nowadays the vehicle collisions are mainly due to Cagers (car drivers) either texting/talking on the phone/blowing the nose/chatting to passengers & not looking where they are going or the biker is in the blind spot of the vehicle. I wear police quality hi viz, my lights are HID, and still I have to blare my 119db horn to get their attention.

Okay with all that said and done, I ride for enjoyment not necessity, and one day on a ride out the lead rider was knocked off his bike by a cager who did not look where he was going, unfortunately for the cager the lead rider was a police rider, and an instructor as well. I thought I would mention this just to illustrate a point .

As far as filtering is concerned, I am aware cagers get a tad annoyed with us biker when we filter or pass them when they are in a que. Has anyone thought that bikers are doing cagers a service, if we were to que up like cagers think a moment, the que would be even longer (yes), so we reduce the que length by filtering, so, we do our bit to help do we not

Oh I could go on about the safety wear and all that, but I wont bore you, as you bikers out there know all that anyway, plus the thrill and enjoyment you get out of a bike, nothing between you and the road but the bike and your clothing, a cager, well is protected all round, especially Fun Motor Homers.

Whatever you ride or drive, take care, keep your eyes peeled, and enjoy

Flook the MOG

 

[Fletton]

Saw this.....

And thought of this thread

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