MOT WITH NO CAT, but should it have one

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  1. MAUBRI

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    I had a 1996 Rexhall Vision with a ford F-460 non Cat. There was a label on the engine to this affect. I got rid of that one back in 2015 so the last test was 2014. The Tester would set the emissions up manually and it would pass every time. I now have a Georgie Boy again 1996 and again with the same engine and no Cat. When I said this to the current Tester in April, he said the test is automatically set by the information entered i.e. year, type etc. under this criteria it failed as the computer says my vehicle should have a CAT, even though I could prove that it never had one.It has always passed with every previous owner were ever they have lived Unfortunately there was no label on my current vehicle to say so. So after a bit of wriggling he altered the method of testing and it passed. Now to you MOT testers out there what is the correct procedure, is the vehicle tested as it was manufactured or does ALL the exhaust system have to be changed
     
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    @Geo Is the MOT man, and also RVs . (y)

    The site we have been for the last few days, has a RV for sale. He was telling me this morning he had just taken it for it's mot, only after the test he said it's emissions were better than new vehicles, ;) he then realised it was on gas :D but never said anything. :LOL: Bob.
     
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    I think he entered the wrong data , as your vehicle would not be listed in the annex to the emissions manual so
    Some passenger cars first used during the
    “transition”
    period (i.e. 1 August 1992 to 1
    August 1995) and some light goods vehicles and large passenger cars first used on
    or after 1 August 1994 were not required to be manufactured to the EC standards
    requiring advanced emissions control systems to be fitted. For these vehicles the
    non-
    catalyst test will
    be applied. Owners of
    vehicles
    which were first used during this
    transition period, are advised to check the entries in the Annex to this booklet or
    contact the vehicle manufacturer.
     
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    7D647789-0B46-4E99-9E55-BE1873DC6532.png I don’t know much about bloody great yanks but I assume this has a petrol engine. If it weighs over 2500 kg it is not classed as a passenger vehicle. Here is the flow chart used to test. As an exact match will not be found in the data base, if it fails the initial bet test it is tested to non cat limits.
     
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    I Know he enterd the wrong Data:rolleyes:
     
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  6. MAUBRI

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    Good morning Geo, Thank you for your input and also "telsdog".

    just an after thought, were you aware your web site is currently off.
    Oh no. Something went wrong.
    This website https://geobgeo.jimdo.com/ is not available right now.
     
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    Thanks for thre heads up , looks like Son has switched it off he's in charge now
    or not paid :rofl:
     
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    This 'Cat' or 'No Cat' issue is bothering me right now as our 'van is coming up to the next Test in July/August.

    The problem as I see it (from my point of view) is that that the 'front end' is a Fiat X244 which predates the X250.
    Although the front end was manufactured in 2005, the van wasn't first used until Sept 2007. Add to that the fact that sometime in the past, it has been fitted with a Stainless Steel Silencer system and I have no idea whether it had a Cat, whether it needs a Cat or whether it will go through the test in this regard when it's tested.
     
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    If your not sure you can bet your bottom dollar the tester will be even less sure
    unfortunately we have heard every story and excuse in the book as a result we can't take anyone's word on anything
    Our Job may depend on someones story
    The system based on info supplied by the manf will dictate how the test is carried out
    if you disagree with the tester and can't convince him, ask him to use the MoT Help line to make the right decision
    Its what its there for, it is anonymous for the station and tester so he cant appear as a idiot
    Or you could call the helpline your self and preempt the situation.
    I apologise in advance for myself and all the other testers out there for not knowing all the technicalities of every vehicle on the road, this area is new to us as well, were told to enforce rules that in truth we know little about and Manuf info is very sketchy to say the least but your not alone every vehicle registered or built around a cut off year causes problems identifying them
     
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