Moselle and Rhine route (1 Viewer)

[missmollie]

Need a bit of help, we would like to tour the Moselle and Rhine areas of Germany and need an idea of the toll free route from Calais and also, some nice stellplatz with interesting towns close by. We would be heading towards Annecy and then who knows. We will be away from end of August for about 6 weeks.
Any ideas much appreciated.

 

[The Dudess]

Reil is a really nice stellplatz within a few minutes of the beautiful town with quite a few restaurants and bars. We also like Piesporter Goldtröpfchen. We will be there again in September (hopefully).

 

[Rob Turner]

Just turn left and head north up to Belgium, no tolls on motorway.
Bruges, Gent, Brussels, Luxembourg (cheap fuel) then head for Trier.
You can then head north up the Moselle.

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[Jimbohorlicks]

we went from Calais to Dunkirk , turned right for Luxembourg and did a small detour to Belgium , Yrpres, which is a place you must visit, on to Luxembourg headed towards Trier on the Mosel and just mandered along the Mosel, lots of places to stop for the night, some free most just a few euros. Headed up to Koblenz where the mosel meets the Rhine and headed down the rhine to France-brilliant tour-loads of places to visit and lots of places to stay

 

[Peter & Elaine]

All of the above but olso try schengem and remich in Luxembourg on way up

 

[JockandRita]

Just turn left and head north up to Belgium, no tolls on motorway.
Bruges, Gent, Brussels, Luxembourg (cheap fuel) then head for Trier.
You can then head north up the Moselle.

Ditto missmollie .

There are many Aires and Stellplatz on the way from Calais, and once on the Mosel/Moselle (German/French), you'll be spoilt for choice for a safe overnight Stellplatz.

We will be away from end of August for about 6 weeks.

Ideal, as that is the period of the wine festivals all along the Mosel, as well as the wind down of the Rhine In Flames near (but not at) Rudesheim, and also the Oktoberfest Beer Festival held in Munich. There may also be a German Camping Club Rally at Erding, over the same period of the Oktoberfest, which anyone can attend, by pre-booking.

Enjoy,

Jock (& Rita).

You have chosen a good time to visit Germany.


Enjoy

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[David and Sally]

Just turn left and head north up to Belgium, no tolls on motorway.
Bruges, Gent, Brussels, Luxembourg (cheap fuel) then head for Trier.
You can then head north up the Moselle.

Bang on.

Great stelplatz at Graach near Bernkastel

 

[JockandRita]

There may also be a German Camping Club Rally at Erding, over the same period of the Oktoberfest, which anyone can attend, by pre-booking.

As suggested missmollie.

Erding Rally for the Oktoberfest. It's a great experience, and not just for beer drinkers.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[billym]

As suggested missmollie.

Erding Rally for the Oktoberfest. It's a great experience, and not just for beer drinkers.

Cheers,

Jock.

That looks like it could be a plan ( we hate plans) for us as we will be around there at that time.
Did you go on any of the organised trips into Munich and if so how was it?

Thanks

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[PhilandMena]

This advice below, may help you choose routes. However, I agree with other posters regards Luxembourg (cheap fuel and into Germany at Trier, then river crawl. Also ,if your going to do the rivers do not miss Koblenz. There is a campsite there and 2 days should be on your bucket list. Top of the pops is the Romantic Road (Not to be missed). https://www.romanticroadgermany.com/
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(Note: Toll costs for a class 2 Motorhome. Calais – Irun. €149.40). (Fuel €151.62 Based on 1083 K @10K per Ltr. @€1.40 per ltr. 3.5T motor-home). N10 Calais - Irun. Using partial Toll = €11.50). (Fuel €147.84 Based on 1056 K @10K per Ltr. @€1.40 per ltr.)).

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There is another popular app/website that is used which you may also find useful if you’re doing a lot of wilding and looking for free overnight stops. It too is used by many motor homers in Europe. Get the paid version to use off line for around £9.00

https://www.park4night.com/



One of the best off line MAP ‘App’ and used by many. It also includes a sat-nav function which is quite good and can also be used off line. Again many motor homers use this, especially in Morocco.

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[JockandRita]

Did you go on any of the organised trips into Munich and if so how was it?

We did on our first visit Billy. We booked two seats on the Sunday coach, for the parade through Munich, which was about three hours long, a lot of standing about unfortunately, but a great procession. Anything else, we did by train from Erding Bahnhof which is walkable from the Sports Stadium, where the Rally is held.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[billym]

We did on our first visit Billy. We booked two seats on the Sunday coach, for the parade through Munich, which was about three hours long, a lot of standing about unfortunately, but a great procession. Anything else, we did by train from Erding Bahnhof which is walkable from the Sports Stadium, where the Rally is held.

Cheers,

Jock.

Brilliant. Thank you.

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