Morelo Palace (2 Viewers)

[TheAleMan]

No, crack on Martin..I'm enjoying reading all this - it's absorbing.

 

[TheAleMan]

The RV thing. I haven't got HGV, and with RV's, it's like a house with me..I have to like the look of it before I love it, and I don't generally like them, especially the interiors on some of the one's I've seen and been in. I would love to have slides but can't go the extra for a Euro with that facility unfortunately.

 

[sallylillian]

The RV thing. I haven't got HGV, and with RV's, it's like a house with me..I have to like the look of it before I love it, and I don't generally like them, especially the interiors on some of the one's I've seen and been in. I would love to have slides but can't go the extra for a Euro with that facility unfortunately.

Getting my C is probably one of the most self enlightening experience I have had in a long time. I was 60 when I started training after 44 years of being a perfect driver, to find I was bloody useless. It teaches you a whole new approach to lorries on the road and provides skills for handling any large vehicle that are really beneficial. If I were you I would train and get my C whilst you are not under any pressure to pass because you have a new heavy truck on the drive.
And have great fun in the process.

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[eddie]

The RV thing. I haven't got HGV, and with RV's, it's like a house with me..I have to like the look of it before I love it, and I don't generally like them, especially the interiors on some of the one's I've seen and been in. I would love to have slides but can't go the extra for a Euro with that facility unfortunately.

The gap is much closer than some people think, some RV interiors used to be awful but they are much more muted now, on our 27B the brochure proudly claimed European styling and cabinets

As for the outside, a little like cars design, they are all running out of ideas:-

 

[TheAleMan]

At last they seem to have seen the light then Eddie. I might have to casually look round a few if I get a chance. Went to Peterborough a couple of years ago, when my brother was looking at 5th wheels. They are same with dodgy interiors, at that time anyway. It sort of put him off. I am not committed to Morelo, I am after all in the very early stages of research, so will look at several marques until I find the right one. The Morelo is certainly an eye catcher though, and will be hard to beat on aesthetics alone.

 

[ceejayt]

The gap is much closer than some people think, some RV interiors used to be awful but they are much more muted now, on our 27B the brochure proudly claimed European styling and cabinets

As for the outside, a little like cars design, they are all running out of ideas:-

I bet the Morelo has a better and stronger feel than the US RV, I know which I would prefer.

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[eddie]

Fifth Wheels are still

I bet the Morelo has a better and stronger feel than the US RV, I know which I would prefer.

Yes I don't doubt it. I bet the Morello has a claustrophobic feel than the RV, So I know which I would prefer

That and I could buy two for the price of one and sit four people to the table and not tread on each other

 

[ceejayt]

Fifth Wheels are still

Yes I don't doubt it. I bet the Morello has a claustrophobic feel than the RV, So I know which I would prefer

That and I could buy two for the price of one and sit four people to the table and not tread on each other

Yes, I totally get the claustrophobic feel. In our very expensive Flair, if one person stood up then the other person had to sit down if one wanted to get past each other.

Our kltchen lounge slide on the RS gives us the extra room and couldn't go back to non slide now. If I get to 70 and fail the test and have to go back to 3.5 ton then I guess I would go back to a caravan with a slide which is bizarre as the motorhome is a much safer vehicle to drive than a big four wheel drive and a caravan swaying around the back

 

[eddie]

Yes, I totally get the claustrophobic feel. In our very expensive Flair, if one person stood up then the other person had to sit down if one wanted to get past each other.

Our kltchen lounge slide on the RS gives us the extra room and couldn't go back to non slide now. If I get to 70 and fail the test and have to go back to 3.5 ton then I guess I would go back to a caravan with a slide which is bizarre as the motorhome is a much safer vehicle to drive than a big four wheel drive and a caravan swaying around the back

Get on with you, there is no way that your any where near 70!

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[weejocky]

Our kltchen lounge slide on the RS

You bought an RS. Brave man

 

[ceejayt]

Get on with you, there is no way that your any where near 70!

Regrettably, it gets ever closer - 64 this year and getting our third, and I expect our last, Elysian as I am sure it will see me out. We did 6 moths in the US with the last one and covered 15,000 miles. This one will be doing some serious European travelling - I have a lot to knock off on my bucket list!

 

[ceejayt]

You bought an RS. Brave man

Bought 2 and now waiting for number three to arrive next month - been very happy every time and even more so with the latest changes to the design I hope

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[weejocky]

What names were on your receipts. They change it every two years. so much for your guarantee

 

[TheAleMan]

You bought an RS. Brave man

Why is that Weejocky ????

 

[ceejayt]

What names were on your receipts. They change it every two years. so much for your guarantee

Sure, they have had their ups and downs but in 7 years they have never let me down or failed to correct any issue. Maybe foolish but I buy people first and they can never do enough to make sure it is right. Plus, for me, buying British and being within 50 miles of the factory to get anything fixed is a big plus.

I read many threads on here about the problems people have with their guarantees and getting warranty work done by dealers or more often than not seemingly denied. Not something I have ever had to worry about.

I am content

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[weejocky]

Why is that Weejocky ????

https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/rs-motorhomes.163483/#post-2565329

 

[ceejayt]

https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/rs-motorhomes.163483/#post-2565329

Old news - I would suggest that before dragging them too far through the ringer you go and visit the factory and see what they are doing which would invite more informed comment.

I have been a few times in the last few months - they are stacked out with work and had 5 chassis in just for new Elysians (of which mine was one - had my name on it)

Manufacturing motorhomes is not for the faint hearted especially if you are going to be a small manufacturer. How many Morelos are produced each year I wonder - not that may, but they have a big financial backer. But I also understand that their backer is not that interested in their business (which is just hearsay I would hasten to add).

When people's livelihoods depend on it they tend to deliver if at all possible.

 

[weejocky]

There is nothing old about the news. Fraud is Fraud and Phoenix companies are a scourge on the honest.

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[TheAleMan]

Mmmm, just had a quick flick through the posts from your link Weejocky, and doesn't make for good reading I must admit.

 

[ceejayt]

There is nothing old about the news. Fraud is Fraud and Phoenix companies are a scourge on the honest.

That can be very true of course.

However, in this case, can you find any single person who did not take delivery of their motorhome or lost their deposit with them. I don't think so.

You have to look deeper into individual circumstances rather than a blanket view. In the 1990's I had a very successful education Apple dealership employing 30 people. High turnover, low margins to schools and universities. Overnight, Apple decided to withdraw all education dealerships and sell direct. I had to make 30 people redundant, shutter the company and sell my house to avoid personal bankruptcy. Still hurts to this day but I don't consider that to have been my fault.

In your terms, I 'phoenixed' that business as a software business and the short story is that today it now employs over 1000 people and has revenues approaching £140m - I retired from that business 4 years ago and every day I think just how many mortgages the business pays for every single month.

 

[OurMoreloLife]

No, as far as I know, that's not the case for large vehicles. Ours is Cat 2

All I know is that it's yellow!

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[OurMoreloLife]

We have "downsized" under 7.5 ton, being in my fifties this has nothing to do with age, but choice. We are under 9m long now which we consider OK for most of the sites that we visit. we are returning about 10MPG which on LPG at about 60p a litre we are very happy with. Having bought our first new motorhome at the tender age of 28 our kids have grown up in motorhomes and have travelled extensively.

At the age of 31 I got bitten by the RV bug and although we (Lyn my Wife and I) have had European vans in between have had nine new RVs So have a bit of experience in ordering them and knowing what to expect.

So, price? To some spending £140,000 on a camper van is a lot of money, to a Morello owner it is a down payment. Do I think that Morello's are worth it? No, but to be fair I also fail to see the value of some panel van conversions, in that I look at the price of the delivery van, mentally add the cost of the components as I mentally "load" the van up and cannot get to circa £70k for some. Equally I cannot see how my entry level (in the States) RV could cost £140k so I can't criticise Morello for that, it is just me.

Would I buy a Morello, or more importantly could I buy a Morello? Having bought boats (my other passion) costing a few hundred pounds to ordering new boats costing several hundred thousand pounds, yes, if I wanted one I could find the money, but "would" I buy a Morello? No, I wouldn't. The reason that I wouldn't is that I have had some eighteen motorhomes in the last thirty years and I tend to change them quite quickly and I wouldn't get the value out of owning a Morello, and there are things that I prefer on a yank.

So, having worked on several Morello's do I like them? Yes I do, I think that the attention to detail in the main is excellent, the workmanship is first class and the equipment that they install and the materials they use in construction, are some of the very best. In fact, the antithesis of entry level RV's, where the attention to detail is sloppy, the equipment, particularly the heating is dreadful and the materials they use sometimes beggar belief.

In 1990 We ordered a Gulf Stream Conquest a 28' C Class motorhome on a Ford V8 7.2 Diesel engine chassis. We sold a 1999 Swift Kon Tiki on a Talbot 2Lt petrol chassis. If I had to buy both those motorhomes back today, and pick one to full time in, touring Europe, I bet that I could still live very comfortably in a 29 year old Gulf Stream Conquest.

So having established that Morello's are superior in so many ways, why do we love Yanks?

Our third or fourth RV in, saw Lyn & I travelling with @AshVanBitz @Simon Howards Motorhomes and @JamesJohnsCross when Lyn told us that five was to become Six After a little while to get over the shock, we worked out how we would carry on using our motorhome (for work and play) with three young children and a baby. The answer was simple, the rear bed in the camper was housing electrics and water tanks. It was a weekends work to remove the double bed, cut it in half to make two single beds, relocate the water tank, pump and plumbing one side and all the electrics to the other side and build two bunks above it. All the structure was decorative Luan panelling fitted to a aluminium structure so easily added to and moved. As I have said we tend to change our vans quite quickly so when we sold the Airex it was dead easy to change the "Bunkhouse" back to a conventional rear double bedroom.

Also space, as the boys got older, holidaying with three teenage boys, one ten year old and two adults, all of who like sports, bike riding, swimming, snorkelling, the kids into blading and a host of other things takes up a huge amount of space! If we all just took three pairs of shoes, (unlikely with my wife, or as I found out @JamesJohnsCross's now wife, then as a girlfriend, would hide loads of shoes in our camper despite technically going away to meet us, travelling with her parents in their RV!) That is 18 pairs of shoes, 6 pairs of flip flops, six sets of fins, six mountain bikes! So very early on we discovered slide outs, and this is the biggest reason that I remain a devout fan of American campers.

In our latest bed, we have a Super King sized bed, the same as we have at home, we love it, a Sunday morning, tucked up as snug, in a bug, in a rug, in bed with our books, coffee's on our side tables is so relaxing. and when we do decide to get up, Shadow, our massive GSD can be sprawled across the floor and there is no stepping over him, with the whole kitchen and dinette slide out doubling the usable lounge space, actually making it feel like an apartment rather than a camper.

The twin slides mean that we can actually have a dedicated dinette, a dinette that four people can sit at for the evening if playing cards or Rummicub, close friends have downsized to a Hymer after having Yanks for years and the four of us can no longer sit at their table comfortably as whilst the picture looked great in the brochure there is physically not enough room for four normal sized adults to put their legs, a common fault by motorhome designers I find, swirling chaise longue style settees around an artistic teardrop table looks great, if you have people with no legs! Style over substance.

So, RV's not fantastic workmanship, some with dubious style, design and colour combinations, some of the technology "old school" to say the least, but acres of space when the slide outs are deployed, and to me personally, once a certain level of build and equipment is achieved, space is king.

This is why motorhomes are so individual, to many space is irrelevant and they are concerned about a different criteria, nor are my comments written in stone and I may change my mind, I have in the past, nor are all the toys on a yank rubbish, to be honest on the new one I can, from the outside, having checked the pitch, use an app on my phone to level the camper using the hydraulic jacks, slide out the front and rear slide outs, extend the fully automatic awning, and turn lights, all nonchalantly you understand

Nice, honest and well written Eddie; thanks for that.

My other half simply would not have a Yank RV but loved the Morelo. She didn't want a MH at all but after the factory visit, she changed her mind and we went for it. With just being the two of us and she is tiny, we fit in there just fine. So as you rightly say, it's all about your personal choices, your circumstances and one size doesn't fit all.

 

[TheAleMan]

I would just like to say here, a very big thank you to Peter (OurMoroeLolife) & Evie, for taking the time to show us round their beautiful 'bus' today. A very informative day for us, and actually seeing a Morelo in the flesh like that, took me aback to be honest, such a stunning motorhome.
Thanks again Peter & Evie..It was a pleasure to meet you today.

Steve & Karen

 

[ceejayt]

I would just like to say here, a very big thank you to Peter (OurMoroeLolife) & Evie, for taking the time to show us round their beautiful 'bus' today. A very informative day for us, and actually seeing a Morelo in the flesh like that, took me aback to be honest, such a stunning motorhome.
Thanks again Peter & Evie..It was a pleasure to meet you today.

Steve & Karen

No doubt, it is a super duper van (actually, almost an insult to call it a van, palace is more accurate)

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[TheAleMan]

No doubt, it is a super duper van (actually, almost an insult to call it a van, palace is more accurate)

Haha. I said something similar today. It's a total injustice to call it a van, when something like that is so beautiful. To be honest, I haven't seen a better motorhome inside or out.

 

[CazPaul]

Haha. I said something similar today. It's a total injustice to call it a van, when something like that is so beautiful. To be honest, I haven't seen a better motorhome inside or out.

Lovely vans they certainly are, have you seen any more of the high end A class vans?
Phoenix, Concorde, Variomobile, Niesmann, because its such a lot of money I would definitely do a Germany trip before committing to look at all the others.

I was wowed by Vario, Phoenix are top quality, Concorde nice vans too. Flairs are lovely.

 

[OurMoreloLife]

I would just like to say here, a very big thank you to Peter (OurMoreloLife) & Evie, for taking the time to show us round their beautiful 'bus' today. A very informative day for us, and actually seeing a Morelo in the flesh like that, took me aback to be honest, such a stunning motorhome.
Thanks again Peter & Evie..It was a pleasure to meet you today.

Steve & Karen

Ah, thanks, Steve.

It was our pleasure to meet you both and that's partly why it like it here; my first interaction with a Member; face to face. We enjoyed having you both here and I look forward to seeing how you progress, either with a Morelo or another "bus" (as I call it).

While Steve was here I kept thinking about how nice it would have been for us to have had such a tour of a Morelo when we were exploring our options before the pilgrimage to the factory, Steve had done his homework, he even bought it with him!

I laughed to myself when I opened a locker to find a clutch of cold beers hiding in there and passed one to Steve saying "it's rude not to, isn't it?" (and with a moniker like his, it just had to be done)! I think it was his first non-real ale, man!

It goes to show, it's not about the vehicles or all the things you (I) can find to fill them up with. As always, it's about the people; and Steve and Karen were great guests and welcome back here anytime.

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[jongood]

Lovely vans they certainly are, have you seen any more of the high end A class vans?
Phoenix, Concorde, Variomobile, Niesmann, because its such a lot of money I would definitely do a Germany trip before committing to look at all the others.

I was wowed by Vario, Phoenix are top quality, Concorde nice vans too. Flairs are lovely.

I definitely agree. The Mecca for these machines @TheAleMan is the Dusseldorf show but its not until September sadly.

If you fancy a trip to Germany 3 of the main ones including Morelo are at Schusselfeld and N&B only a few hours up the road(closer) at Polch. Or you can go to Southdowns at Portsmouth, Travelworld at Stafford or Premium at Doncaster but of course check what they have in first.

 

[jezport]

The build quality looks OK but at the price point you’d expect it to be absolutely perfect.

I looked at them at the NEC and thought at that price they would have been better.
Personally I would go for a Frankia. Had one for around 9 years no issues with build quality

 

[sallylillian]

I looked at them at the NEC and thought at that price they would have been better.
Personally I would go for a Frankia. Had one for around 9 years no issues with build quality

Interesting in what way?

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