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The big question I can’t get an answer too is what’s so special about SuperB and Victron batteries to justify the price? Even if you were to take Morelos’ crazy extras mark up off the price they are way over what you could pick up from the many current dealers. I looked at a 460ah unit at the Malvern Motorhome show at a price of around £1800 and Morelo are charging €6750 for a 200ah Victron I can’t find anything which gives a definitive explanation to justify the price difference.24v makes sense and the 6kw inverter as well, if you need to save weightyou could put a small 12v lithium off a motorcycle for the generator. Are you staying with gas for the heating and cooking?
That should be a straightforward solution. We used to start high compression petrol engines using 24v on a standard 12v motor. The issue was protecting the electronic ignition from the surge.
Be thankful that their not specifying a Victron battery for the generator
I also thought Martin's comment was tongue in cheek but think he was referring to you describing the chassis as a 1510 which in normal Merc parlance would mean 15 tonnes but 100hp, which might have been a little disappointing
That's a good question and one I have asked myself a few times but alas I have no answer, I have looked at the spec of Super-B over the years and Victron more recently and the only thing I can see is that they both support a higher current draw compared to other offerings that are indeed a lot less money, that suggests that the internal wiring and BMS are a bit heavier but other than that I really don't know.
I did try and get an answer from Dometic around the starter motor tolerances and if 24Volts or if being accurate probably around the 28volts would cause damage to the starter. Spoke via email to a lovely guy who is a generator boffin from YouTube and he advises against it recommending the simple 12 volt battery solution. Unfortunately, but not surprisingly no support from Dometic. The YouTube guy rebuilds and repairs generators for a living so more inclined to take his guidance.
Ours is 24v chassis and 12v leisure, the on board genny, was half tapped from the factory, which is the old fashioned but inelegant way of doing it.
You have got me thinking now. I’m off to stick a tong tester on the starter cable to see how much it draws on start up. Thinking one of these maybe a better solution.
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Very very nice, hope you have a great time travelling when you get it
I’ve started collecting hats of motorhomes that I can’t afford, started with a Carthago, then a Malibu, just waiting for my Bailey and Elddis hatsThe Bailey hat will require you returning numerous times for incomplete stitching etc .Very very nice, hope you have a great time travelling when you get it
I’ve started collecting hats of motorhomes that I can’t afford, started with a Carthago, then a Malibu, just waiting for my Bailey and Elddis hats coming thru
Its hard to tell these days. The Victron stuff is mostly chinese, If you fancy doing it yourself put a decent quality fuse between it and the rest of the system.You have got me thinking now. I’m off to stick a tong tester on the starter cable to see how much it draws on start up. Thinking one of these maybe a better solution.
Edit - Did the test and it pulls 35amps so 100amp would be more than sufficient and compensate for Chinese exaggeration. Might look for a more reliable manufacturer
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But you need to take into account the time and labour required by Morelo to put the two screws into the wall for the mounting bracket and remember, they are not any old screws they are Morelo screws
Out of 8 terest what sort of discount can you get, asking for a friend in case he wins the lottery?But you need to take into account the time and labour required by Morelo to put the two screws into the wall for the mounting bracket and remember, they are not any old screws they are Morelo screws
I think the inflated prices on the extras compensates for the discounts which can be negotiated. Makes the customer feel good but in reality it’s a bit like the Tesco Club card game.
It's most likely something that stays between the dealer and the customer but will depend on a lot of factors, when we ordered our lowly Palace we got a small discount from the dealer but then topped up and supported by the factory as we were at Dusseldorf show, we were told it could be a bigger discount if we ordered a Palace Liner or even an Empire, then of course it might depend on how busy the factory are as I understand that during Covid times when it all went mad there were none at all, and then finally it might depend on how many Morelo you have actually bought off them and how many times you mention Concorde in your negotiationsOut of 8 terest what sort of discount can you get, asking for a friend in case he wins the lottery?
I think the discounts are around the same when purchasing any motorhome or car and dependant on how good your negotiating skills are. I never get too hung up on discounts and price of the vehicle. The important figure is the price to change, that's what matters.Out of 8 terest what sort of discount can you get, asking for a friend in case he wins the lottery?
I have seen vans the same age as ours up for sale for a lot more than we paid (doesn't mean they sell though) those figures are bolstered by the increase in new price over the 4-5 years so yes the price might hold up but the cost to change can still be pretty eye watering, yes there are fewer to choose from on the used market but there are also fewer potential buyers, I would suggest that sub 7.5t hold their value better than over 7.5t HGV based.
Agree totally, there are some relative bargains once you get over 7.5t, a lot more motorhome for the money. Licence is cheap enough, just have to factor in the medicals when you get to 70.
Looks like they are making good progress with soft furnishings and TVs installed. This is the biggest improvement Morelo have made since I bought my first one in 2016. They have finally ditched the horrendous Alphatronic TVs they are the biggest piece of junk I have ever come across. I’m delighted that Morelo have changed to Avtex.
They sent me out a promotional video of the new Dometic AC unit complete with the “revolutionary” external halo LED accent lighting. Then in true German humour they add, but Morelo is too high for it to be seen
Edit - Just as well I posted the pictures. Just noticed they have fitting pleated screens on the windows. We ordered the Leaf Package which should include Venetian blinds which we would probably call Roman blinds, they are not wooden slatted blinds but fabric which pulls up bunching every 6 or so inches.
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Morelo tried hard to convince us to induction. We have an outside slide out kitchen which has a 2 ring induction hob on it and other half does not like induction, so given they are the chef they get the choice. Personally, I would have gone induction but that was based on looks and not practicalityGas burners? No option for induction cooktop? Not as if you’re short on battery power!
Oh no you don’t want one mattress the split water gel mattress complete with the froli under support system is better than my bed at home. Split bed save roll togetherSorry to see that the mattress is cracked !
I would have expected to see one full mattress not a split one.
However, progress is being made.
Anyway we like 'roll together' on our double mattress.
stewartwebr. As are we Stewart & Co, and the sentiments are exactly the same.I am one of those who could never afford anything so luxurious BUT I don't have any ill feelings, jealousy etc for those who can. I genuinely hope that it's everything you hope it is (and more!!) Keep the pictures and updates coming, best wishes and thanks for sharing!
Sorry I missed that one completely Jon, it was indeed the battery/solar capacity that I was referring to but yes a 1510 might need a few more gear changesI also thought Martin's comment was tongue in cheek but think he was referring to you describing the chassis as a 1510 which in normal Merc parlance would mean 15 tonnes but 100hp, which might have been a little disappointing
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, some bit of kit you've got there mate many happy miles of motoring with new morelo.