Michelin Cross Climates, informative video (1 Viewer)

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Feb 25, 2020
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I have now done around 1700 miles on my European spec set from snow at Mount Blanc to loose gravel tracks in Derbyshire and they are very good indeed, quite, good grip, confidence on wet roads etc.
 
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Jake Royd
Jan 11, 2018
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The design details given in the video chime very plausibility with me.
I now understand why the tire is directional (water shedding etc.)and that if mounted on the wrong side after having a puncture braking will be inferior.
So I will brake carefully.
Have not bought mine yet. I need 5 and they ain't cheap.
Plan to get mine mid year.
If I understand correctly they have just recently produced them in a 15" version as well as 16".
 
Oct 9, 2019
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I was going to go for Continental All Seasons when I get mine changed next month. Now I'm undecided. All these tough decisions.
Stick with Contis, this guy is in US and Michelin gave him a set to try, no sign of him testing against Contis

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DevonSmithy

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May 3, 2016
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I really like the cross climates, had them on the van and car and have worked well in snow and light mud.

I've just bought a new set of wheels so will be putting a set (x4) of Michelin cross climates up for sale soon. 215/70 R15. Only done approx 3000 miles and manufactured beginning of 2022.
Not sure what to ask for them (can supply the wheels too from a Ducato). Replaced with different tyre size 16" again with cross climates!
 
Mar 23, 2012
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Just had the cross climates on the car replaced today 205/70/16 94 load cost £95 each fitted from Kwik fit. I must say I was surprised they came out cheapest on the web search I did and they very surprisingly didn't try and sell me anything else!. Mind you they did forget to put the plastic wheel nut covers back on one side!
 
Oct 29, 2016
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The Michelin Agilis Cross Climate 225x75 R16 with 121/120 Load Rating at Kwik Fit come out at £247.50 less 10% for 2 or more fittedo_O
Need to start saving up for them next year, tyres like most things these days seem to have shot up in price.
I think the tyres shown in the video are for cars with lower load ratings, the tread pattern is different for van tyres with higher load ratings, plus thicker side walls for white van man to bump kerbs.
LES
 
Apr 3, 2019
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If you dont want CP tyres, Costco is way cheaper. I fitted the standard Van tyres to my Motorhome.
 
Jul 18, 2009
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I did fit Michelin X-Climate to one of our cars, not that long ago. The first thing I noticed was the shockingly poor grip in the wet, slush and ice. The only thing they have been okay on is snow.

They were fitted 3 years ago, covered around 10,000 miles and are all cracked on the sidewalls. It passed a Spanish ITV last month, but they all need replacing. Complete waste of a lot of money. I intend to replace them with Goodyear Vector 4 season or Similar Bridgestone

Camper Van or CP tyres are just overpriced and not required. If you are worried about sidewall and standing times, go for 10 ply commercial tyres.

I have used Michelin Alpin winters for many years on all our motorhomes and vans, until recently very pleased with them. Exceptional grip and never been stuck or needed chains, even in deep or compacted snow. However, the last batch too have started to crack and become too pricey now, so I opted for Toyo Observe, available in 8 or 10 ply in some sizes. Only once with with Nokian winter tyres on a VW T5 did I have excessive wear on winter tyres.

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Sep 17, 2017
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There can be massive differences in tyres just within the same model in the same brand. I had some Pirelli P Zeros on my old Focus and they were great. Supple and good feel. I changed to an A3 which had a mismatch of odd tyres, so I upgraded to P Zeros. Slightly larger, slightly different tread pattern. They were stiff, tramlined over minor imperfections and were noisy and chattery. And felt far worse in the wet.

I definitely wouldn't compare experience with a car tyre to a van tyre.
 
Jul 18, 2009
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There can be massive differences in tyres just within the same model in the same brand. I had some Pirelli P Zeros on my old Focus and they were great. Supple and good feel. I changed to an A3 which had a mismatch of odd tyres, so I upgraded to P Zeros. Slightly larger, slightly different tread pattern. They were stiff, tramlined over minor imperfections and were noisy and chattery. And felt far worse in the wet.

I definitely wouldn't compare experience with a car tyre to a van tyre.
But they are of the same tread pattern, car or van. Commercial tyres are almost the same but with 8 or 10 ply side walls. Car XL Usually 4

If my experience of putting this design of tyre on a 1200kg car. I certainly wouldn't want them on a 3500kg + van or motorhome.

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Oct 9, 2019
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I did fit Michelin X-Climate to one of our cars, not that long ago. The first thing I noticed was the shockingly poor grip in the wet, slush and ice. The only thing they have been okay on is snow.

They were fitted 3 years ago, covered around 10,000 miles and are all cracked on the sidewalls. It passed a Spanish ITV last month, but they all need replacing. Complete waste of a lot of money. I intend to replace them with Goodyear Vector 4 season or Similar Bridgestone

Camper Van or CP tyres are just overpriced and not required. If you are worried about sidewall and standing times, go for 10 ply commercial tyres.

I have used Michelin Alpin winters for many years on all our motorhomes and vans, until recently very pleased with them. Exceptional grip and never been stuck or needed chains, even in deep or compacted snow. However, the last batch too have started to crack and become too pricey now, so I opted for Toyo Observe, available in 8 or 10 ply in some sizes. Only once with with Nokian winter tyres on a VW T5 did I have excessive wear on winter tyres.

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Send these photos to the manufacturer and complain, this should not happen for at least 5 years
 

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