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I know it a bit how long is a piece of string question but look to book in to a site for a month and its metered electricity. So with just a few lights and a fridge what a ball park figure for electric use a day in kWh?
 
Recently in Spain same set up it was 9 euro for 6 days but that was using gas for heat and water so just fridge lights and charging laptop etc
 
I presume your lights are 12v.

If so you will be running your charger, a fridge and possibly a TV?

Do you have solar? If not then my first shot would be:-

100w for fridge (at 240v) - 0.4a
300w for charger - assuming running a reduced rate but for 24 hrs. - 1.25a

Call it 400w x 24 hours = 9.6Kwh

I think I have over-egged the charger a bit. Real experts will be along soon.!
 
It's a case of doing the maths again. There will be a fixed price per Kilowatt of lecce consumed. You could try and work out what your consumption would be over 24hrs/1 week but the best way I think is to take readings from the meter your connected too then it will be much more simpler. How much you will use/cost in 24 hrs is entirely dependant of price per kilowatt and amount you consume. Like you said A piece of string.
 
Wholesale price is about 12p for a 1000w load for an hour if that helps?

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Yep we have solar. Been off grid for about 3 months. Only run out of electricity 2 after really miserable days.
 
For what you're intending to use I personally wouldn't bother with metered electric. The couple of times I have used it I felt that I had been ripped off.
However I do have 100w solar and two leisure batteries and tend not to stay in one place for very long.
Using ACSI campsites we get as much electric as we need included in the cost.
 
TerryL said:
For what you're intending to use I personally wouldn't bother with metered electric. The couple of times I have used it I felt that I had been ripped off.
However I do have 100w solar and two leisure batteries and tend not to stay in one place for very long.
Using ACSI campsites we get as much electric as we need included in the cost.
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I agree with you Terry, over the years there has been quite a shift in the campsites in Europe to move over to a metered rate and I have seen first hand some shocked campers when they went to pay there monthly bill when overwintering in villasol campsite benidorm. I think some charge Campers a higher rate than they pay for it.
 
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Innkeeper said:
I know it a bit how long is a piece of string question but look to book in to a site for a month and its metered electricity. So with just a few lights and a fridge what a ball park figure for electric use a day in kWh?
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If you run the fridge off gas then mains usage will be negligible, 50p a day perhaps?

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I dont know if this is any use at all but we have just come back from Villasol/Beni and were there for 5 weeks. We had the ACSI rate which included 4kw electric per day. We ran our 3 way fridge on it, used our 1000w kettle a lot, charged stuff. Watched an hour or two of TV at night. No hair dryers or toasters.
The weather was mostly good but we did run the heating on the 4kw setting( the lower one anyway) for a couple of hours on about 7 nights.
We had to pay an extra €5
The weather was very warm the first 3 weeks during the day, mid 20s and only went down to 8-10 at night.
 
TerryL said:
For what you're intending to use I personally wouldn't bother with metered electric. The couple of times I have used it I felt that I had been ripped off.
However I do have 100w solar and two leisure batteries and tend not to stay in one place for very long.
Using ACSI campsites we get as much electric as we need included in the cost.
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Not all ACSI just come off Bonterra park who charge after 4kwh which is fine if you don't have everything on the leccie.
 
Assuming you have solar, If you can get to the charger and can unplug/switch it off, that's the way to save the pennies.
Every time you switch on a 12v item there is a likelihood of the charger coming on whereas the solar will deal with the use without too much bother.
 
The charger will use very little power over 24 hours if all it's doing is supporting 12 volt loads such as TV, Led lights and water pump. Something around 50W at most would be my guess. :)
 
Innkeeper said:
I know it a bit how long is a piece of string question but look to book in to a site for a month and its metered electricity. So with just a few lights and a fridge what a ball park figure for electric use a day in kWh?
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Cost me less than a euro for 3 weeks on Benicasim..Heater is diesel so just hot water,fridge and lights.BUSBY.
 
PhilandMena said:
I think some charge Campers a higher rate than they pay for it.
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Which is totally illegal if they do. What they can do though is charge any amount they want for the 'access' to the electricity.
The rate that they would pay would be far higher than the UK as the standing charges increase as the capacity in Kw you require as a supply increases. The rates per KW/h would also be higher.
 
We used to use about 3kwh per day at La Torreta before the free allowance ended. That's with the 3 way fridge on electric.

Now all electric is 40c /kwh so we use LPG for the fridge and solar for everything else apart from Ann's hair dryer. For 7 weeks the elactric bill was €1.20
 
gus-lopez said:
Which is totally illegal if they do. What they can do though is charge any amount they want for the 'access' to the electricity.
The rate that they would pay would be far higher than the UK as the standing charges increase as the capacity in Kw you require as a supply increases. The rates per KW/h would also be higher.
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Like you say then ! They can charge any amount they want for the 'access' to the electricity. Rip off done!

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They do rob you with electric, we had a portable solar panel when we had a caravan on camping Javea, pluged in but turned the charger off unless you needed it, and run TV / sat box lights pump off 12v and fridge and heating on gas, then we had a separate freezer and anything else you plugged in the sockets you paid for. ? Bob.
 
We did stay at one site last year where leccy was metered, got a bit of a shock on the bill when leaving. If we stay there again (SWMBO wants to) we will just not plug in. If its sunny we don't need ehu.
 
Why not get a bill after the first week and if it's a lot run the fridge etc off gas
 
Reallyretired said:
We did stay at one site last year where leccy was metered, got a bit of a shock on the bill when leaving. If we stay there again (SWMBO wants to) we will just not plug in. If its sunny we don't need ehu.
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One of the reasons why I didn't fit an auto changeover on the EHU, just a 2 way manual. I can now select what we are using, so for hair dryer EHU. TV and other small mains things Inverter ?
 
Innkeeper said:
I know it a bit how long is a piece of string question but look to book in to a site for a month and its metered electricity. So with just a few lights and a fridge what a ball park figure for electric use a day in kWh?
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Use the fridge on gas !
Most ( if not all ) van fridges will use a couple of kilowatts a day.. So that will be about 30€ on its own.. but on gas they are very frugal

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Always a tricky calculation, if you are offered hook-up. The three main consumers are:

heating
hot water
fridge

Quite often we have found that running all the above on LPG is cheaper than opting for EHU. But sometimes, when combining sites with aires/wilding, we like to conserve the LPG so opt for EHU when offered and keep the LPG for when there is no option.

Sometimes EHU is thrown in with the daily fee anyway, so it's a no-brainer.

If the electricity is metered there is often a minimum (standing) charge. We have often not exceeded that, as it seems to be designed for people in big vans who have not heard of cardigans and prefer to heat them so much that they can wander around in their smalls.
 
When we were in EL Raco benidorm last year we were charged on average 40 euros a month,that was just the fridge on electric everything else was on gas.
 
I recon we use 50p of gas a day so ehu if not included isn't worth it. That being said we don't do a lot of winter MH ING
 
A bottle of ( spanish ) gas cost us a few cents less that 12€..In January when the nights are still cold it will last an average of 10 days.
Thats for all the heating, cooking and the fridge
The electric last year was 45cents / kw so it would have cost more than the price of the gas just to run the fridge !

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