Maybe no entry to France for UK citizens after 31 Dec because of high infection rate in UK

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Just saw this on BBC news website
According to Dominic Rabb
 
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French people get on fine with the Brits generally, it’s the bleedin politicians that wind the people up.
All Funsters I know are careful and stick to the rules. This will have little sway when it comes to banning U.K. visitors I know.
Frankly I can’t wait to get travelling again, France, Germany, even Belgium (joke).

Phil
 
You can after 15th travel throughout France but not between 2000h till 0600h when there is a curfew more controls in place
 
nicholsong said:
I hope it is only UK Residents and not UK Citizens resident elsewhere.
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The EU restriction is based on residency (individual countries may differ).
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And it is not new and not specific to the UK, it is just that the existing general EU restrictions on entry from Third Countries will begin to apply to the U.K. from 1st January, when the UK begins to be treated as a Third Country.
 
If it does happen I wonder what happens if someone wants to return to the UK through France or even from France presumably as you're already there you are ok but then if you took a ferry to Belgium can you drive into France. I wont be doing either just wondered how it would work sounds like one of the ideas where the detail hasn't been thought through.
 
The Wino said:
If it does happen I wonder what happens if someone wants to return to the UK through France or even from France presumably as you're already there you are ok but then if you took a ferry to Belgium can you drive into France. I wont be doing either just wondered how it would work sounds like one of the ideas where the detail hasn't been thought through.
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The Wino said:
If it does happen I wonder what happens if someone wants to return to the UK through France or even from France presumably as you're already there you are ok but then if you took a ferry to Belgium can you drive into France. I wont be doing either just wondered how it would work sounds like one of the ideas where the detail hasn't been thought through.
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As I understand it, transit on the way to a foreign country is an allowable reason. I don't have a link, sorry, and I am not sure whether it only applies to transit on the way home.
 
EdwardFT said:
As I understand it, transit on the way to a foreign country is an allowable reason. I don't have a link, sorry, and I am not sure whether it only applies to transit on the way home.
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I suppose the details will be released a day before it takes effect!!!. I still think its unlikely unless our figures at the time are a lot worse than theirs.
 
The Wino said:
I suppose the details will be released a day before it takes effect!!!. I still think its unlikely unless our figures at the time are a lot worse than theirs.
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No, it is not a new effect, we are speaking here of rules that are already in effect for 3rd countries, it is just the the UK is about to become one.

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The Wino said:
I suppose the details will be released a day before it takes effect!!!. I still think its unlikely unless our figures at the time are a lot worse than theirs.
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The EU restriction on 3rd country entry is based on the country's figures compared to the EU average. The UK's figures are worse than the EU average.
 
Cut and pasted from 'The Local', France a few minutes ago. Looks like travellers/transiters might have a 15 day window....

From December 15th
  • Lockdown will be lifted, and trips out of the home will no longer require an essential reason or an attestation (permission form).
  • A curfew from 8pm to 6am will be introduced
  • Cinemas, theatres and other cultural centres, which had been scheduled to reopen on December 15th, will stay closed until at least January 7th
  • Bars, restaurants and gyms will remain closed until at least January 20th, as planned
  • Rules on religious services remain the same
  • The curfew will be lifted on December 24th, but not on December 31st as had previously been suggested

  • However travel between regions - and in an out of France - will be allowed from December 15th for all reasons.

    The curfew will be strictly enforced and only the following reasons will be accepted for being out between 8pm and 6am
    • Working or travelling to and from work
    • Essential family reasons (not including family visits)
    • Medical reasons
    • Providing aid to a person in need
    • Walking the dog (although trips out for exercise are not allowed during curfew)

  • An attestation will be needed for all trips out of the home during curfew hours.
 
Pete5996 said:
Cut and pasted from 'The Local', France a few minutes ago. Looks like travellers/transiters might have a 15 day window....

From December 15th
  • Lockdown will be lifted, and trips out of the home will no longer require an essential reason or an attestation (permission form).
  • A curfew from 8pm to 6am will be introduced
  • Cinemas, theatres and other cultural centres, which had been scheduled to reopen on December 15th, will stay closed until at least January 7th
  • Bars, restaurants and gyms will remain closed until at least January 20th, as planned
  • Rules on religious services remain the same
  • The curfew will be lifted on December 24th, but not on December 31st as had previously been suggested

  • However travel between regions - and in an out of France - will be allowed from December 15th for all reasons.

    The curfew will be strictly enforced and only the following reasons will be accepted for being out between 8pm and 6am
    • Working or travelling to and from work
    • Essential family reasons (not including family visits)
    • Medical reasons
    • Providing aid to a person in need
    • Walking the dog (although trips out for exercise are not allowed during curfew)

  • An attestation will be needed for all trips out of the home during curfew hours.
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Thank you, that is more recent than my info from the local.fr.
 
EdwardFT said:
I read 21:00 to 07:00


And BTW the easing of lockdown on 15th December is not certain, it depends on the daily case rate having been reduced to around 5000 by then. Currently it is between 11,000 and 14,000, which would preclude lifting the lockdown.
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respectfully, and I may be wrong but having just watched the French TV programme on BFMTV I believe CASTEX admitted that the number will not be down to 5000 but the new rules are from the 15th irrespective

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filopastry said:
respectfully, and I may be wrong but having just watched the French TV programme on BFMTV I believe CASTEX admitted that the number will not be down to 5000 but the new rules are from the 15th irrespective
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You are correct, my information was from earlier and they changed it today.
Thank you for "respectfully". I must remember to use it myself.
 
Dont get the Thread title. The total infection “rate” actually higher in France than UK
 
Cheshirecat57 said:
Dont get the Thread title. The total infection “rate” actually higher in France than UK
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It's not a UK v France infection rate issue. It's the application of the pre-existing EU rules of access from non-EU countries - very few, low-Covid, countries are presently allowed access to the EU.
 
Cheshirecat57 said:
Dont get the Thread title. The total infection “rate” actually higher in France than UK
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The restriction comes from the EU, not from France, and the figure to compare with is the EU average, not the figure for France. That is less than the UK's rate.

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Cheshirecat57 said:
Dont get the Thread title. The total infection “rate” actually higher in France than UK
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Respectfully (just proving i have read the thread) France is currently on 230 per 100,000 over 14 days and UK is 314.8 so we are quite a bit higher on todays figures
 
EdwardFT said:
The restriction comes from the EU, not from France, and the figure to compare with is the EU average, not the figure for France. That is less than the UK's rate.
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Out of interest where do you find the EU average on a daily basis?
 
The Wino said:
If it does happen I wonder what happens if someone wants to return to the UK through France or even from France presumably as you're already there you are ok but then if you took a ferry to Belgium can you drive into France. I wont be doing either just wondered how it would work sounds like one of the ideas where the detail hasn't been thought through.
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Err ,they are in the EU also ? It is EU rules on 3rd countries.Which UK will be on 1st january
Cheshirecat57 said:
Dont get the Thread title. The total infection “rate” actually higher in France than UK
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As above nothing to do with it .3rd country as from 1st January . Only aussies& NZ allowed in at the moment Even the U.S. Haven't been allowed in to the EU directly for 6 or 7 months.
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Basically they are trying to make an example of us , they fear other countries wanting out
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as above Existing EU rules. You've gone from being part of the EU to looky-looky men , as my African friend delighted in telling me many months ago😂😂
 
suavecarve said:
Respectfully (just proving i have read the thread) France is currently on 230 per 100,000 over 14 days and UK is 314.8 so we are quite a bit higher on todays figures
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Respectfully, my numbers are the total infections( since day one) per million population note the word Total
And the uk per 100k rate is falling against Frances rising

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