Manners, Values & Humour vs PC and Equality? (1 Viewer)

[Tibbo]

I have posted this on another thread but felt compelled to start a new thread for general discussion.
I love this forum for its camaraderie, helpfulness and humour (even the jokes from Old-Mo )

However, I have noticed that some seem to take offence at some of the more lighthearted posts on various subjects. This leaves me wondering if they are serious about all things being perfectly politically correct or whether they are unwilling to accept a joke for what it is meant to be ...... a lighthearted, no offence intended, joke.

I'm just totally confused!

Just before Xmas I went to our local shopping center, I approached the doors about the same as a 50's something female. I quickly stepped forward and opened the door for her, only for her to glare at me and say quite loudly "Despite being female, I'm perfectly capable of opening the door for myself"

Only a few weeks later, I found myself and a late 20's something female approaching another entrance at the same shopping center. Still smarting from the rebuff of a few weeks earlier I just sauntered toward the doors to allow her to opportunity to open the damn doors for herself. This time what I got was "I would have thought a gentleman from your generation would have opened the door for a lady"!

So what will I do in the future? ..... I will do what I've done for years ...... I'll go back to opening the door .... if any females don't like it ..... tough .... it used to be referred to as good manners!!

Unfortunately, political correctness seems hellbent on sending good manners down the same road as lighthearted humour. The one-way road to oblivion!

Your thoughts?

 

[Bailey58]

Quite agree, good manners cost nothing. As you found out there will always be the odd, in more senses than one, female who has jumped on the gender bandwagon but for the majority of us they are not immediately apparent. Best to stick to the safe way and carry on with the good manners. As for the PC responses to posts on Fun perhaps they come from ex members of The Dark Side who can't quite shake off the negative side of their former life.

 

[Chris]

The best way of approaching these matters is to be equally horrible to both sexes

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[Janine]

I love to have a door opened by a gentleman and always say 'thank you'. Don't let grumpy people spoil it for the rest of us

 

[icantremember]

Think for the first one I would have told her that I was an old time gentleman and she was no lady, before shutting the door in her face.
In the second case I would have apologised and related the previous experience.

 

[Hollyberry]

I see holding a door open as good manners, no matter the gender or age of the person.
anyone who moan they're capable of opening a door for themselves is just plain miserable.

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[TheTwoOfUs]

If after opening a door for her a woman says to me " you don't have to do that because I'm a woman", I reply "I didn't, I did it because I'm a gentleman".

 

[Enword]

I Know to what you refer @Tibbo sense of humor & PC can work together but its getting less likely The PC thing is going to bite them on the ass eventually, For example I have had female passengers in the past & they have done a great job, but now I'd think twice about racing with a female passenger as, if they couldn't hack it & they put both of us in danger, would they pull the gender card if I sacked them or just accept they weren't up to it, which is very sad as I'm the first one who like to see more women racing.

 

[magicsurfbus]

Just before Xmas I went to our local shopping center, I approached the doors about the same as a 50's something female. I quickly stepped forward and opened the door for her, only for her to glare at me and say quite loudly "Despite being female, I'm perfectly capable of opening the door for myself"

Maybe she was transgender and old habits die hard? Nope, regardless of gender politics what you encountered there was a miserable humourless old git. Ignore.

I'll hold a door open for anybody without thinking about it, and I don't give a shit if some of them think it's an act of white male patriarchal oppression.

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[On the road again]

Don't let the standards of others erode yours.

Keep opening the doors, sometimes you get a 'Thank you'.

If not I just say loudly enough for the culprit to hear 'at least the invisible cream's working today'

 

[olley]

I don't think my wife knows how to open a door.

 

[Larby]

Helping in my son's garage I greeted a middle aged female with "yes madam?" she pointed out a "madam" was the term generally used for a woman in charge of a brothel.
It was difficult not to say that I did not know that!

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[chaser]

I know on here I'm the grumpy old bugger or worse, but if getting to a door or something same time as someone else, female or male I will always hold the door for the other person and feel bad if I let a door go then find someone else was following me.
Actually I'm same on the road if meeting another vehicle in a narrow road I will always give way.

 

[Tea Bag]

I know on here I'm the grumpy old bugger or worse, but if getting to a door or something same time as someone else, female or male I will always hold the door for the other person and feel bad if I let a door go then find someone else was following me.
Actually I'm same on the road if meeting another vehicle in a narrow road I will always give way.

Hi.
"Narrow road/always give way"!!!!! I should Bl***dy well hope so,going down a 20' lane with a 24' Cuttingbar on. It's not Carrot crunchers rule yet in ...... Uch'eter!

As for @Enword, i TO would love to see young ladies racing......TOWARDS ME

 

[chaser]

Hi.
"Narrow road/always give way"!!!!! I should Bl***dy well hope so,going down a 20' lane with a 24' Cuttingbar on. It's not Carrot crunchers rule yet in ...... Uch'eter!

As for @Enword, i TO would love to see young ladies racing......TOWARDS ME

Very true, I suppose that's where the habit stems from

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[rangi]

I've only had one instance of someone objecting to me holding the door open for them, and that was in a land far far away.
A t the local Garage, every morning I either hold the door for someone or vice versa, we all say thank you to each other, the miserable git behind the counter is another matter.!

Giday Henry!

Grunt!

Not such a giday then Henry?

Grunt!

 

[suavecarve]

Just before Xmas I went to our local shopping center, I approached the doors about the same as a 50's something female. I quickly stepped forward and opened the door for her, only for her to glare at me and say quite loudly "Despite being female, I'm perfectly capable of opening the door for myself"

"Im sorry i was holding it open for a pensioner, I do apologise" sort of says F(** off whilst being polite and rude at the same time.

 

[pappajohn]

I don't think my wife knows how to open a door.

Mine hasn't realised light switches work both ways.

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[Tibbo]

@Enword ... I'm going back to the late 60's and having actually done 10 laps or so around Mallory Park as passenger on one of those 3 wheeled death traps. I'm of the opinion that anyone male or female who volunteers to do it, is certifiably insane!
Absolutely thrilling to watch though

 

[two]

I hold the door open for whoever might be following me through, irrespective of their colour or sex. Many may be too pre-occupied to notice or give thanks, but it still gives me an opportunity to practice my smile.

Political correctness follows little logic and is a fashion I'm happy to let pass.

Good humour is appreciated by different generations and experiences. Very few jokes make everyone smile.

 

[Carol]

@Tibbo I think it's sad that other people with no manners can make us question our own, really annoys me when things get unnecessary PC.

As for the forum some people just like thinking they are right, you get to know who they are and think here we go again. Fortunately the big majority are really lovely and will always go the extra mile to help.

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[Deleted member 29692]

I love this forum for its camaraderie, helpfulness and humour (even the jokes from Old-Mo

Is the nurse coming round soon?

 

[TheBig1]

we went out for a meal tonight and as i approached the door a 20 something young man in a hoody rushes past me and grabs the door, opened it wide and held it as both myself and Bren went through on crutches. then shot past us and did the same at the next door. of course we thanked him, but it was so nice to see manners alive and well in the youngsters of today

personally i will hold a door for anyone and treat women as ladies should be. its just part of how i was brought up

as for the other part of the post, they should join our sister site crumpy gunts

 

[tonyidle]

I Know to what you refer @Tibbo sense of humor & PC can work together but its getting less likely The PC thing is going to bite them on the ass eventually, For example I have had female passengers in the past & they have done a great job, but now I'd think twice about racing with a female passenger as, if they couldn't hack it & they put both of us in danger, would they pull the gender card if I sacked them or just accept they weren't up to it, which is very sad as I'm the first one who like to see more women racing.

I think any woman who has the guts to passenger a racing sidecar is very unlikely to turn into a whinging feminist no matter what the circumstances .

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[PeteH]

Helping in my son's garage I greeted a middle aged female with "yes madam?" she pointed out a "madam" was the term generally used for a woman in charge of a brothel.
It was difficult not to say that I did not know that!

The reply could have been, "I would not have expected a "lady" to be aware of that fact?." OR "are you implying that Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, runs a house of ill repute, Half the world calls her Ma`am, which is the shortened derivative".

As for holding doors open and Pulling out chairs in restaurants etc; I still do it, even though half the worlds females are totally unappreciative of the "gentlemanly" gesture.

I still think one of the worst, was the 2 young slapper`s who let the door go just as I was starting the push SWMBO`s wheelchair through the door.

 

[Gromett]

@Tibbo just be grateful you are not part of the millenial generation just getting into dating.

Do you pay for the meal or go halves as it can be condescending to pay.
How do you know if they are interested in you, you can't test the water by going in for a kiss for fear of being accused of being a sex pest or worse.
Some work places even ban you from asking a lady out...
You have to get it in writing that they consent to sex..
You can't even be sure you are using the correct gender pronouns these day . Seriously there are more than 60 of the damn things now....

There are loads more. But I am so glad I am happy being single... I really would hate to be trying to get into the dating scene these days and would hate it even more if I was in my 20's again...

 

[Tanya_and_Mick]

I opened the door to the fridge for my wife the other day and got that stare of despair......

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[Candapack]

Helping in my son's garage I greeted a middle aged female with "yes madam?" she pointed out a "madam" was the term generally used for a woman in charge of a brothel.
It was difficult not to say that I did not know that!

The correct response is "Ah, thought I recognised you."

 

[Candapack]

I was in a lift with a colleague years ago, doors opened, woman entered and said "5th floor". No please or anything.
My colleague said "It's not voice activated, you have to push a button".