LPG refilling tips (1 Viewer)

[mintravels]

I'm taking my new converted campervan out for a test run for a couple of days in the new year.

Ive never filled up my underslung tank with LPG before and feel a bit stupid for asking but do I have to ask for the pump to be switched on before i attempt to fill?

 

[stevewagner]

No you just clip the pump onto to the filler then press and hold the button on the pump until it stops filling. Be careful when unclipping the filler as it makes a sudden wush noise but nothing to worry about. You’ll find full instructions on the pump.

 

[grumps147]

Wear stout gloves. You can get a tiny release of gas (the whoosh above-its normal) under pressure for a fraction of a second when removing after refuelling, but enough to be unpleasant on the skin for a short time, particularly if you have sensitive skin.

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[mike mcglynn]

No just connect up there are couple of versions of pump connections ,you will need to keep your hand on the pump button when filling and the pump will stop automatically when your tank is 80% full do not try to put more in .when disconnecting there will be a small release of gas always take your keys out of ignition before starting to fill as this turns off the gas if you have your fridge running on gas .I personally wear a pair of gloves When filling ,usually there are good instructions on the pump body just take your time and all will be well .

 

[grumps147]

Here you go ... you are lucky if you get one with a guard fitted, and Shell no longer support lpg ....

 

[Jake vE]

These two videos cover the connection types in the UK

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[Lenny HB]

Don't let go of the button when filling as it resets the pump. You will have to go and pay for what you have put in and start again.

 

[ManTheVan]

by the way!

 

[Cliffdale]

scares the shit out of me every time!

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[Sapper520]

As said before, once connected up DON’T let go of the fill button............I did first time because I thought it was nearly full, but the pump slows to tell you you’re there.

 

[pj650]

Wear gloves and safety glasses when filling up
with gas.
As Grumps pointed out, it will make a real mess of your skin. Imagine what it will do to your eyes.
Take your time and you will be fine

 

[Googlebot]

Wear gloves and safety glasses when filling up
with gas.
As Grumps pointed out, it will make a real mess of your skin. Imagine what it will do to your eyes.
Take your time and you will be fine

I never use gloves or glasses and I am normally really strict about PPE.

If they were necessary for the lay public, we wouldn’t be trusted with the pump IMHO.

That said, nobody ever shouts “I wish I hadn’t put my safety gear on”.

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[poppycamper]

I don't wear gloves either..... In the above video why does the person not release pressure handle AND stand back and wait till gas "woosh" finishes BEFORE trying to disconnect filler instead of trying to do it while it is still "wooshing". ???.
Or is that too simple..???

 

[Lenny HB]

I always wear heavy gloves, liquid LPG vapourising point is - 42°C it can give you very nasy burns. A Funster ended up in hospital a couple of years ago with LPG burns.

 

[Riverbankannie]

I always wear leather gardening gauntlets. The little whoosh of gas at the end, seems to be enough to flow up through the drop vent (under the cooker ) which is near the filler point. Then the LPG alarm goes off. Very scary first time. Now I just turn off the alarm before filling.

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[Googlebot]

I always wear heavy gloves, liquid LPG vapourising point is - 42°C it can give you very nasy burns. A Funster ended up in hospital a couple of years ago with LPG burns.

Lenny of course is correct, you can’t ever regret wearing PPE and I am happy to say I am wrong to be blasé about the risk.

The only time I have ever thought I needed gloves was a faulty pump where the seal had gone and leaked LPG everywhere. I didn’t know that till the pump was cold enough to burn though.

 

[dunnah01]

Don't let go of the button when filling as it resets the pump. You will have to go and pay for what you have put in and start again.

Never seen that happen in several hundred fill ups of car tanks and Moho cyls but now I need to assuage my curiosity so I'll try next fill

 

[poppycamper]

I always wear heavy gloves, liquid LPG vapourising point is - 42°C it can give you very nasy burns. A Funster ended up in hospital a couple of years ago with LPG burns.

Agree what you say Lenny HB but I bet you don't fud about disconnecting filler as per above video.. sure you like me and release pressure and stand back
Yes gloves are an advised precaution but if you take care not really necessary.
Not to be personal but was the Funster disconnecting the filler coupling at the time or messing about some other way with the gas system.
Steam is just as dangerous.... do you wear gloves to boil the kettle and make tea..??.

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[mintravels]

thanks everyone for the tips. I have a bunch of silly little questions that are probably really obvious. The bigger stuff I can google and generally find the answer.

 

[Kannon Fodda]

Instructions are displayed on the pump. It is a bit disconcerting when you do a fill for the first couple of times.

Effectively sequence is to
remove any filler cap on the vehicle
get filler nozzle from pump (last time I did that I spend a minute just trying to get the nozzle to release from the pump housing - weird)
Engage nozzle to filler valve. Usually need to align a couple of slots, lightly push nozzle home and then a quarter turn of the nozzle housing to engage.
Remove hands from anywhere near the nozzle, usually to the handle and behind.
Engage trigger on the nozzle handle (the garage I frequent signage implies the trigger will hold in place, but I have to retain a hand on the trigger.
Now depress, and hold depressed the pump button - often a large big thing.
Keep depressed. May be a very, very long pause for something to happen. You may be waiting for the attendant to authorise the pump. Eventually the pump display will start doing something and a very slight noise implies gas transfer.
As the tank becomes full rate of transfer will slow, then stop on the pump display. Only now do you release the pump button.
Now release the nozzle trigger. Don't put hands in front of the pump handle until trigger is released.
Now disengage the nozzle. Reverse turn the nozzle. There will be a sharp escape of gas, often with slight "bang", brief vapour cloud and a short smell (no smoking!)
Return nozzle to the pump housing
Refit your filler cap.
Get out your plastic at the cashier
Drive away to your next campsite.

 

[tonyidle]

Never seen that happen in several hundred fill ups of car tanks and Moho cyls but now I need to assuage my curiosity so I'll try next fill

Some pumps are like that, others OK to stop and start. You only find out when it's too late.

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[poppycamper]

I have a bunch of silly little questionstr

mintravels As I was informed when I was a newbie and asked the same question I was told
"There is no such thing as a silly question....ONLY a silly answer...We have all been there and even the so called experts are still learning...so ask away.
You just have to develop the art of separating the wheat from the chaff.!!!!

 

[nicholsong]

As a safety precaution against the 80% fill protection in the cylinder/tank I look at the guage and calculate how much I am liely to fill to get to 80% and watch the meter nearing that point ready to let go of the buton should it go past what I have calculated - it usually stops just under a litre short.

Another precaution against overfill and the liquid getting past the tank and into the appliances if the cut-off does not work(and instead of watching the meter you are looking at a blondes nice legs) is to shut off the tank valve before filling. Some say it is not necessary - it might be, if you are a leg man like me.

Geoff

 

[autorouter]

Have you ever seen spots of water on a really hot hotplate? They skid around on a layer of steam, and if the hotplate is tilted they just slide off onto the floor.

Your hand is like the hotplate to the splashes of LPG. As long as it's just a brief splash, and there's somewhere for it to fall to, and nowhere to get trapped, then there's no problem. The LPG slides off on a layer of gas.

The cold metal is a different matter. If it's been in prolonged contact with LPG, it will be cold enough to freeze your skin and make it stick, causing more freezing and maybe a nasty 'burn'. But for a normal fill, the metal that you need to touch won't get cold enough to be a problem. Probably best to wear gloves until you get used to filling.

But actually gloves have their downside too - a splash of LPG inside the glove will work its way down to your fingers and won't be able to escape.

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[mintravels]

Instructions are displayed on the pump. It is a bit disconcerting when you do a fill for the first couple of times.

Effectively sequence is to
remove any filler cap on the vehicle
get filler nozzle from pump (last time I did that I spend a minute just trying to get the nozzle to release from the pump housing - weird)
Engage nozzle to filler valve. Usually need to align a couple of slots, lightly push nozzle home and then a quarter turn of the nozzle housing to engage.
Remove hands from anywhere near the nozzle, usually to the handle and behind.
Engage trigger on the nozzle handle (the garage I frequent signage implies the trigger will hold in place, but I have to retain a hand on the trigger.
Now depress, and hold depressed the pump button - often a large big thing.
Keep depressed. May be a very, very long pause for something to happen. You may be waiting for the attendant to authorise the pump. Eventually the pump display will start doing something and a very slight noise implies gas transfer.
As the tank becomes full rate of transfer will slow, then stop on the pump display. Only now do you release the pump button.
Now release the nozzle trigger. Don't put hands in front of the pump handle until trigger is released.
Now disengage the nozzle. Reverse turn the nozzle. There will be a sharp escape of gas, often with slight "bang", brief vapour cloud and a short smell (no smoking!)
Return nozzle to the pump housing
Refit your filler cap.
Get out your plastic at the cashier
Drive away to your next campsite.

thanks for this. i really appreciate it. i might print this on a little card and laminate it to keep in my pocket

 

[poppycamper]

Sorry autorouter and @nichol

 

[Emmit]

Instructions are displayed on the pump. It is a bit disconcerting when you do a fill for the first couple of times.

Effectively sequence is to
remove any filler cap on the vehicle
get filler nozzle from pump (last time I did that I spend a minute just trying to get the nozzle to release from the pump housing - weird)
Engage nozzle to filler valve. Usually need to align a couple of slots, lightly push nozzle home and then a quarter turn of the nozzle housing to engage.
Remove hands from anywhere near the nozzle, usually to the handle and behind.
Engage trigger on the nozzle handle (the garage I frequent signage implies the trigger will hold in place, but I have to retain a hand on the trigger.
Now depress, and hold depressed the pump button - often a large big thing.
Keep depressed. May be a very, very long pause for something to happen. You may be waiting for the attendant to authorise the pump. Eventually the pump display will start doing something and a very slight noise implies gas transfer.
As the tank becomes full rate of transfer will slow, then stop on the pump display. Only now do you release the pump button.
Now release the nozzle trigger. Don't put hands in front of the pump handle until trigger is released.
Now disengage the nozzle. Reverse turn the nozzle. There will be a sharp escape of gas, often with slight "bang", brief vapour cloud and a short smell (no smoking!)
Return nozzle to the pump housing
Refit your filler cap.
Get out your plastic at the cashier
Drive away to your next campsite.

Yup!
You're right.
The instruction are there on the side of the pump.
However, I can just about manage the French ones but I struggle with, in order of difficulty, the Spanish, the Portuguese followed by the German. And, as for the Greek? That one's easy, they're all Greek to me.

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[Camdoon]

I use gauntlets to do this as normally in t-shirt - same gauntlets used for emptying toilet. You have been warned.

 

[Riverbankannie]

I use gauntlets to do this as normally in t-shirt - same gauntlets used for emptying toilet. You have been warned.

I think that I will carry on wearing my gloves then for the LPG fill !
I dont use gloves to empty cassette as I prefer not to have potentially dirty gloves hanging around. A good hand wash after is better.

 

[Northernraider]

Good lord Britain certainly has gone h&s daft

Hope theres never a ww3 with all these wooses wearing gloves and goggles to fill lpg

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