LPG filters

[Steve and Denise]

Has anyone found the need to fit filters on their gas system, we have been motorhoming 10years now and never had any issues with refillables

 

[Lenny HB]

For the cost compared to the regulator on my van at £200, I considered it worthwhile.

 

[Jake vE]

I would imagine contaminants/gunge would accumulate in the bottom of the tank but I can't see that moving in any great volume to the regulator when the gas vaporises in the top of the tank.....belt and braces though I suppose

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

Never had an issue without a filter.I have a spare regulator but it's just a back up.my bottles have never been upturned and I don't fill from another bottle either, as some folks seem to think is ok.

 

[TerryL]

I fitted a filter when it was reported Moroccan gas could be very dirty and cause problems. It's been there ever since and the filter element is changed every year - but actually to date has never needed it. Ours is a two-bottle refillable system that generally gets through 150-200 litres p.a.

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[Raul]

I am debating weather to fit a inline filter or not, to be most effective the filter should be on the lowest place in the system and the regulator on the highest point, or at least higher than the bottle outlet. At the moment the regulator is 20-30 cm higher than the bottle and no filter. So far no problems in 18 ish months.

 

[Ditcha]

Has anyone tried one of these filters before ?

GAS IT Direct GAS IN Filter, DGI with UK bayonet extension. - GAS IT Leisure Gas Bottles, Gas Cylinders and Gas Tanks - Catering, Motorhome, Campervan, Caravan, Farrier and Road Repair Refillable Gas Solutions.

UK Autogas bayonet extension for filling up an LPG or Autogas converted car with LPg which then filters the LPg or Autogas before it entres the Motorhome or Car with an LPG tank fitted from GAS It, GASIT, Gaslow or Calor gas GAS IT Refillable Gas bottles, Refillable Gas tanks Gas bottle, alugas...

www.gasit.co.uk

 

[JockandRita]

Has anyone found the need to fit filters on their gas system, we have been motorhoming 10years now and never had any issues with refillables

14 x years with a bulk tank plus 1 x year with Gaslow refillables, and no need for an LPG filter yet Steve.

On both setups, the regulator was positioned higher than the supply, and in the case of the bulk tank, an inline vaporizer was present, just before the regulator. This was due to the type of tank fitted.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[the1andonly]

Truma Gas Filter

Yours or mine?.. If i did that on ours the pipe would exit lower, also meant messing about with the copper. Was like that when we got it, I've just added stainless piggy and gasit bottle If talking about yours is that an impact shutoff valve at the bottom? Can't mount that horizontal if it is.

www.motorhomefun.co.uk

A good thread to start, also info about other filter types

 

[Pausim]

I would imagine contaminants/gunge would accumulate in the bottom of the tank but I can't see that moving in any great volume to the regulator when the gas vaporises in the top of the tank.....belt and braces though I suppose

I have a filter and have found an oily puddle in the bowl that would very probably have damaged the regulator. Yes, the gas vaporises before leaving the bottle leaving contaminants behind but oily condensates can form in the pipe and intercepting them is a good idea.

I discovered the puddle after a tester said he was unable to complete a pressure test because the cylinder valve was not completely closing off the pressure. This didn’t sound right and there was absolutely no sign of leakage when I disconnected the bottle. I found the problem was a thick oily puddle in the filter body which was very slowly bubbling. I now clean out the filter before the annual hab check and no more problems with the test.

Has anyone tried one of these filters before ?

GAS IT Direct GAS IN Filter, DGI with UK bayonet extension. - GAS IT Leisure Gas Bottles, Gas Cylinders and Gas Tanks - Catering, Motorhome, Campervan, Caravan, Farrier and Road Repair Refillable Gas Solutions.

UK Autogas bayonet extension for filling up an LPG or Autogas converted car with LPg which then filters the LPg or Autogas before it entres the Motorhome or Car with an LPG tank fitted from GAS It, GASIT, Gaslow or Calor gas GAS IT Refillable Gas bottles, Refillable Gas tanks Gas bottle, alugas...

www.gasit.co.uk

A filter on the filler might intercept contaminants but will not help with the oily condensates that can damage regulators.

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[Fletton]

As a full timer I keep a record

To date - my Moho LPG tanks have had 2,497.25 Ltrs through them since first fitted.. ( 12/07/2016 )

Never had an issue with the regulator (or Fridge for that matter)

 

[jockaneezer]

My Truma regulator (Gasit setup) failed 18 months ago (15 year old van), my neighbour's Truma reg on his caravan (Calor only, 6 year old van with maybe 3 weeks a year use) failed last year. I took both regulators apart and his had a little bit of oil in, but mine was fine ?
I fitted a £25 replacement from Autogas 2000 to mine, neighbour wouldn't hear of it and paid £80 for another Truma !
Pic of the inside of the caravan reg:-

 

[StveveCB]

I took the manual change over valve off mine to replace it with an automatic one and that’s when I realised that only one filter had been fitted. The internals of the change over valve on the side with the filter was very clean but the non filtered side had all sorts of muck in it. I’ve since added a second filter to the other side.

 

[paddymcc]

I've recently fitted one as I was changing the regulator to a crash sensing one which cost a lot more than the one fitted. It does seem to be the Truma regulators that can gum up but I think only Truma produce crash sensing ones. As Lenny HB suggested it made sense to reduce the chances of an expensive regulator failure.

 

[the1andonly]

It seems as if this is another opportunity to spend money to "dubious" effect/ use, but drill into the problem a little bit and the question do i spend or save is easier to answer.
Do i have a truma crash system with refillable cylindar, then yes if not (less likely) no. Ihave one new filter on my gaslow but not on calor.
Just like battery monitor with a pb system a £23 Chinese is good enough (if not anal ) with Li time for a bmv712 (for the anal who want to control charging by SOC) or again the smartshunt if just toys for the boyz.

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[haganap]

If I were using a trauma regulator I would fit one. I've had them fail plenty of times. Since changing to GOKs several years ago, never.

 

[Basildog]

I've recently fitted one as I was changing the regulator to a crash sensing one which cost a lot more than the one fitted. It does seem to be the Truma regulators that can gum up but I think only Truma produce crash sensing ones. As Lenny HB suggested it made sense to reduce the chances of an expensive regulator failure.

GOK do a crash safe regulator which was actually branded TRUMA they should be available again soon as a GOK product, we also stock an electronic Cavagna Crash safe regulator which uses a Toptron solenoid and ecu .

 

[BusyBuilder]

My regulator was gummed up, original Truma auto change over crash sensor regulator, I had it replaced and the fitter moved the regulator further up another 50mm above where Hymer had fitted it. It wasn't cheap by any means as it as done in Truma dealer Germany. I have filters fitted as well as I don't want to have to replace the regulator again. My van was 6 years old.

 

[haganap]

My regulator was gummed up, original Truma auto change over crash sensor regulator, I had it replaced and the fitter moved the regulator further up another 50mm above where Hymer had fitted it. It wasn't cheap by any means as it as done in Truma dealer Germany. I have filters fitted as well as I don't want to have to replace the regulator again. My van was 6 years old.

so was yours stiull gunked up even with filters?

 

[Chocy boy]

I had a Truma valve gunged up, was told it was dirty LPG so had filters fitted.

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[Ingwe]

Two failed Truma regulators. Now have in-line filter, Cavagna regulator and a spare just in case.

 

[BusyBuilder]

so was yours stiull gunked up even with filters?

No, it was gunked up before the filters.