Long term future of autogas in fuel stations? (1 Viewer)

[LesW]

Is there a good web page or phone app that had hood upto date info on location of garages that stock it in the uk and europe

See post #58

For Europe search for myLPG.eu

 

[cmcardle75]

Is there a good web page or phone app that had hood upto date info on location of garages that stock it in the uk and europe

There's plenty of apps that tell you where there used to be LPG.

 

[Stockie]

There's plenty of apps that tell you where there used to be LPG.

That’s my point why aren’t these kept up to date

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[Lenny HB]

That’s my point why aren’t these kept up to date

Only as good as the users, if people using the apps don't supply upto date info they don't work.

 

[Peter and Julie]

Looked long and hard at fitting Gaslow etc. as it seemed very appealing, then I did my due diligence and found there is nowhere remotely near me that still sells it. No welding, builders merchants anywhere around me selling LPG. Every BP or Shell that used to sell it are having the pumps removed. God knows what the RV V10 Petrol/Gas conversion guys are doing for LPG in the UK.

I fill up approx. 200+ litres. If you look there are places. E.g. Off the ferry in Dover, the BP (much cheaper than France), as you head up the hill to M20. That, easy gets me to Lymm services lpg on M6 then 15mins to storage site.

 

[Garry - June]

A classic example of social media scare mongering hype...

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[Two on Tour]

A classic example of social media scare mongering hype...

What is ? have you replied to the right thread ?

 

[Teetime]

Unless you are running on gas, the small amount we use to fill the re-fillable bottles is very small compared to fuel top-ups. The staff also get side-tracked more often to help with gas or find missing adapters. Perhaps the top up autogas pumps may need to find a different home, then watch the price go up.

Wouldn’t it be great if the motorhome industry started to install and sell Autogas at their outlets. But then that could be classed as ‘Customer service’

 

[gpat]

LPG is a fossil fuel but for MH cooking/heating it is not a fossil-fuelled vehicle.

However, if LPG fuelled vehicles go gradually as secondhand ones retire then the market for LPG will dwindle.

Geoff

Yes it will decline to meet the lower demand. However there is still demand and with some car makers going back to lpg (duelfuel) this might help the balance in our favour. Like others say it will be a long time before they become extinct

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[Terry Gill]

I filled up with gas at a local garage recently and there was an engineer doing a service. He kindly put the cover back on the pump and filled up for me. While I was chatting to him I asked about the reduction in forecourts selling gas. He said that 10 years ago he was putting new pumps in at the rate of two per week. Now he said he was taking them out at the same rate.
It looks like the future will be having to fill up at the main suppliers' depots such as Flogas.

Use myLPG.eu.eu App

 

[LesW]

That’s my point why aren’t these kept up to date

I think both of the apps I use rely on the users to update the info as and when they visit the LPG outlets.

 

[GAVLAD]

I think that they’re making a mistake if they’re taking LPG out o forecourts.
The future is looking like going in two directions at the moment.
One being electric and the other being Gas.
Hydrogen is being tested and rolled out by the majority of the vehicle manufacturers and although driving range is massive compared with electric, outlets are currently focussed on electric charging rather than hydrogen pump outlets. (Google Hydrogen vehicle pumps in the UK and you’ll see there’s currently only a handful, probably due to gas being in it’s infancy with manufacturers).
It won’t be long before everyone realises that if Hydrogen is another way forward for fuelling vehicles - which it has been identified as being, manufacturers and gas producers will realise that all of our diesels currently on the road would be better being converted to LPG. 1) to help reduce emissions and 2) to help with reducing the sale of diesel as a forecourt fuel and 3) gas producers will react to market demand - as they currently are because not many are thinking about what to do with their current diesl.
If you think that manufacturers in the last year that they’re allowed to sell a new diesel car in the UK, will look to discount them massively as new buyers will be thinking twice about their resale value before they’ve even bought it from new.
The second hand car market will see a dip in diesel as tax will probably have to change to incentivise further to move away from diesel.
So all of these cars will be still on the road or still available at a dealer and if you think that a typical diesel isn’t seen as being ‘run in’ until it’s got 30-40k on the clock. So diesels are here to stay for a while yet and LPG will be looked at again I feel.

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[jagx300]

There's been a lot of chat about this on the Elgrand forum. Seeing as our vans have the same engine as the 350z sports car. 3.5 ltr v6, they do like a drink. A lot of us have converted to LPG. It seems that Shell have binned it but Morrisons are keeping it shame they don't do Tesco club card points.

 

[jagx300]

Is there a good web page or phone app that had hood upto date info on location of garages that stock it in the uk and europe

Lpg fill on the app play store thing. Updates every few days

 

[jagx300]

Lpg fill on the app play store thing. Updates every few days

FillLPG. I got it arse about face. Pretty good map and price based app

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[poppycamper]

all of our diesels currently on the road would be better being converted to LPG. 1) to help reduce emissions

Question..... Is it possible to CONVERT diesel engines to LPG??
I thought you could only convert petrol engines.
Apologies if I am talking Sh@@e.

 

[Lenny HB]

Question..... Is it possible to CONVERT diesel engines to LPG??
I thought you could only convert petrol engines.
Apologies if I am talking Sh@@e.

Yes but only older types, can't do the modern ones. In Thailand a large percentage of buses & lorries run on natural gas. PITA when the bus refuels every one has to get off and it takes about 20min.

 

[poppycamper]

Yes but only older types, can't do the modern ones. In Thailand a large percentage of buses & lorries run on natural gas. PITA when the bus refuels every one has to get off and it takes about 20min.

Lenny HB..
You have enlightened me thus far... so if i may take it a step further..How is the ignition phase achieved when using gas,????

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[Krumpli]

Three or four years ago we could find only 2 LPG (autos) pumps in the whole of Greece. Now there is one in most towns. The Greeks seem to like gas.

 

[Terry and Angie]

I’m sure I have seen a campaign on the net for the caravan club to install some LPG pumps on there sites as some of them use LPG for heating shower blocks etc. Maybe the answer.

 

[jagx300]

I’m sure I have seen a campaign on the net for the caravan club to install some LPG pumps on there sites as some of them use LPG for heating shower blocks etc. Maybe the answer.

Oh crikey don't get them involved. You'll have to do a Masons handshake and fill out forms and have the correct colour trousers on before you got to use it.

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[Terry and Angie]

Yes I’m sure you are right as they seem to be spending a lot of money adding camping pods and such things at the cost of pitches .

 

[Brakers]

Hi There
Not sure if this has been mentioned but with some LPG stations removing the pumps that means you will have to go to somewhere which does have the pumps; so more revenue for the ones which are left. Also I’m not sure about anyone else but I would have thought it was wise to also buy diesel while you are filling your LPG. That way the station can see they are bringing you in for LPG and also Diesel and perhaps a coffee or sandwich while you are there. Simples

Best Wishes Tony

 

[cantonalegod]

Out for a bike ride today, thought I'd have a nosey down at our local Flogas, as the LPG fill up point had been closed down for a while, with a sign on it!

Happy days, open again, (though not today, as it's Sunday). 65ppl.

Gave me enough cheer and energy to carry on, and cycle to the beach!

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[RogerIvy]

Perhaps it's all a matter of supply = demand.
As more stations remove their tanks we get closer to profitability for those that keep them.
Finally we may have enough remaining demand to keep an OK network of filling points alive, and we'll need to plan our trips accordingly.

 

[Brakers]

As more stations remove their tanks we get closer to profitability for those that keep them.

Yes that is exactly what I was trying to say in my post; not very well apparantly.
Best Wishes Tony

 

[Ken Hall]

Our local (2 miles away) filling station discontinued Autogas 3 years ago when they refurbished, so we went to the Calor depot 35 miles north in Middlesbrough where they have a pump and sell at rock bottom prices (11kg Gaslow and 6kg Red Hybrid system). It's closed during lockdown. Then I wanted more flexibility and found this website: Link Removed among others, that gives us complete flexibility . Just a point though, ring the filling station before you commit, for the same reason stated in previous posts. Some stations are uninstalling.

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[DumfriesDik]

I can see people with domestic gas tanks having charge point for refills if possible.

 

[Rapidoman 2011]

l'm on LPG at home, we have a 2000 litre tank, makes me wonder if it could have a filling point put on, at 34p a litre would be worth it.

 

[Carado]

Go to the App Store on your phone or tablet and install my LPG.eu and that way you will have the nearest LPG filling point and also the price per litre also I have found that a lot of motorhome dealerships have a bulk tank to fill up your refillable bottles often they will offer you a free coffee while a member of staff takes your motorhome to the workshop to fill your system be very careful!!! Your free coffee will be put just outside of their SHOP with all the goodies to tempt you so came away with two full cylinders of gas plus a new table and a new chair !!!

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