London LEZ Zone charges

Alex and Lesley

Alex and Lesley

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We are planning on going to Abbey Wood CAMC Site later this year and would appreciate guidance on what the LEZ Charge will be for us. We will be driving a 4.5 tonne MGW Motorhome towing a 2 Tonne MGW Trailer with a car on the trailer, the Motorhome is a 2019 Euro 6 diesel, I would appreciate knowing if we will be charged for each day that we will be inside the LEZ or only on the days that we drive in and out of the LEZ, FYI we do not intend to drive our car or Motorhome inside the LEZ when we are there. Thanks in advance. Alex
 
Asked similar question recently... can't help with amount but was informed on here that you only pay to go Into zone and then again to come back out. Someone more knowledgable will be here soon.
Edit.. All the info you require is on the London ULEZ Website.
 
Could I refer you to the thread, "

Abbey wood club site emission costs."​


Posted last Autumn. It gives advice re checking if your vehicle is compliant with the new rules.
 
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FYI, A Euro 6, 4.5t should not need to pay inside the LEZ.

We have a Euro6, 3.8t van and live inside the LEZ. No charges.

Be aware the ULEZ zone, which is just inner London is a congestion charge, so everyone pays.
But if you are going into inner London public transport is far faster and waaaaay cheaper

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Brains said:
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FYI, A Euro 6, 4.5t should not need to pay inside the LEZ.

We have a Euro6, 3.8t van and live inside the LEZ. No charges.

Be aware the ULEZ zone, which is just inner London is a congestion charge, so everyone pays.
But if you are going into inner London public transport is far faster and waaaaay cheaper
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Just tried the website van euro6 3.85t £17.5 per day.
Whatsup? Ate they reading incorrect data from dvla, if so would i be in same boat with all other rip off zones.
 
Did it say LEZ in the list below after entering your reg number?

Just did our 3.5t MH which I think is euro 5 but could be 4 and no charge for LEZ but charge for ULEZ of £12.50 a day, not that I’ll ever go that far in.
 
the1andonly said:
Just tried the website van euro6 3.85t £17.5 per day.
Whatsup? Ate they reading incorrect data from dvla, if so would i be in same boat with all other rip off zones.
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That is what is coming up on the website for our van as well, this is really why I asked for advice in the first place tbh as being a euro 6 engine I thought that we would exempt, I also tried the car this morning (Fiat 500 2020) and it is also the same charge seemingly.
 
my work van is euro 5 plus and is compliant for all zones except the congestion charge

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mitzimad said:
lez has always been roughly the m25 the ulez moved out to the north circular last october
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Well that makes a lot of sense mitzimad. I was confused by the LEZ and ULEZ.
Always thought ULEZ was central London and LEZ was the bit around that.
However I started having my doubts as some posters (not only on this thread) seemed to indicate the opposite.
Thanks.👍👍👍👍
 
Yes I know, but the LEZ out to the M25 is being tightened up in October to cover all diesel up to Euro6 and Euro 4 petrol,
This was proposed a few years back and already effects me, my Euro 4 diesel is 3900kg and I’m expected to pay £100 a day to drive the 200 yards inside the zone to my home,
 
ivorantony said:
Yes I know, but the LEZ out to the M25 is being tightened up in October to cover all diesel up to Euro6 and Euro 4 petrol,
This was proposed a few years back and already effects me, my Euro 4 diesel is 3900kg and I’m expected to pay £100 a day to drive the 200 yards inside the zone to my home,
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you have my sympathy im also 200 yards in side the ulez motorhome non compliant

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Alex and Lesley said:
That is what is coming up on the website for our van as well, this is really why I asked for advice in the first place tbh as being a euro 6 engine I thought that we would exempt, I also tried the car this morning (Fiat 500 2020) and it is also the same charge seemingly.
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London has three different toll zones:
Click here to see which zones affect your vehicle

1: The Congestion Charge zone:
Central London, basically the City of London and the City of Westminster and environs (Tower Bridge to Vauxhall Bridge)
Cost is a minimum of £15.00 per day. Parking, if you can find it, will be at least double that.
Map here

2. The ULEZ Zone:
Inner London, Inside the North & South circular roads.
Cost MAY be free, as long as you have a Euro6 (2014) or above diesel or a Euro4 petrol (2005) or above engine.
Very little free parking, but it can be found.
Map here

3. The LEZ Zone
Outer London and the suburbs. The LEZ zone is basically from the inner North/South Circular roads out to the M25 orbital motorway.
Cost MAY be free, as long as you have a Euro6 (2014) or above diesel or a Euro4 petrol (2005) or above engine.
Free parking can be found.

Many cities and towns all over Europe either have are due to soon introduce LEZ's of one sort or another, if you have an older vehicle you will need to check on a case by case basis a summary of all the EU plus UK zones is here
 
Thanks Brains i obviously cant read their info properly.
ps not been within m25 for years but could get caught out by road closures and Manchester equivalent of RED Ken
 
Thanks Brains, I have checked both vehicles and the site states that they will both be liable for the congestion charge of £15 per day, does this seem correct to you?
 
Alex and Lesley said:
Thanks Brains, I have checked both vehicles and the site states that they will both be liable for the congestion charge of £15 per day, does this seem correct to you?
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The Congestion charge applies to all vehicles but only covers Central London. The LEZ and ULEZ charges are different and and depend on Euro classification.

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Alex and Lesley said:
Thanks Brains, I have checked both vehicles and the site states that they will both be liable for the congestion charge of £15 per day, does this seem correct to you?
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Congestion charge, yes, but that only applies to the City of Westminster which is the shopping and theatre district and the City of London, which is the financial district.

Simple, don't drive into the Congestion charge zone, you can't park in any case.
I live within 3 miles of the boundry and work inside the Congestion Zone boundary,
I've not driven inside in years, and probably never will again.

The (inner London) ULEZ and (Outer London) LEZ are different areas

A 2020 Fiat 500 (Petrol or Diesel) should not be paying anything to drive within the LEZ or ULEZ.
Either you are reading the website wrong,
or you are putting in a central London post code,
or TFL have the wrong details for your car (Personal number plate possibly ??)

If your van is Euro6 (or higher), basically most vans built after 2015, then you should also be clear in the LEZ and ULEZ.
But you will need to confirm this as some larger vans are classed as HGV's

We have a 2018 Hymer with a Euro6 diesel, it's plated at 3.8t.
We live inside the ULEZ zone so drive home each time we start and finish a trip.
We do not pay ULEZ (or LEZ) charges.
We do not drive into the Congestion Zone
 
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Alex and Lesley

Another toll to be aware of is the Dartford Bridge/Tunnel
Your route down from Scotland to Abby Wood would be A1 or M1 to the M25
The clockwise around the M25, over the Dartford Bridge
You need to pay the DartCharge toll,
You can only do this on line (There are no toll booths)

Do not be tempted to take the strait line route from the end of the M1 or M11 through the middle of London, a cyclist will be faster than you would be, and I'm not joking.

If you (or your immediate family) are liable to use the Dartford crossing at least once per year then it's worth setting up an account and entering as many vehicles as you like to the account.
Otherwise you have to remember to pay each time here
 
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Brains said:
A 2020 Fiat 500 (Petrol or Diesel) should not be paying anything to drive within the LEZ or ULEZ.
Either you are reading the website wrong,
or you are putting in a central London post code,
or TFL have the wrong details for your car (Personal number plate possibly ??)

If your van is Euro6 (or higher), basically most vans built after 2015, then you should also be clear in the LEZ and ULEZ.
But you will need to confirm this as some larger vans are classed as HGV's
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Thanks again, the little Fiat is indeed on a personal plate as is the Motorhome which is a 2019 4.5 tonne Frankia, I also just checked my 2021 Ford Ranger pick up which is not on a personal plate and they are all showing that the £15 per day charge is applicable. We are only planning on going to the Abbey Wood CAMC Site which according to the map is in the LEZ area but the tfl website does not give great clarity in my opinion.
 
Brains said:
Alex and Lesley

Another toll to be aware of is the Dartford Bridge/Tunnel
Your route down from Scotland to Abby Wood would be A1 or M1 to the M25
The clockwise around the M25, over the Dartford Bridge
You need to pay the DartCharge toll,
You can only do this on line (There are no toll booths)

Do not be tempted to take the strait line route from the end of the M1 or M11 through the middle of London, a cyclist will be faster than you would be, and I'm not joking.

If you (or your immediate family) are liable to use the Dartford crossing at least once per year then it's worth setting up an account and entering as many vehicles as you like to the account.
Otherwise you have to remember to pay each time here
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Again thanks Brains I am aware of the Dartford Crossing as well! I presumed it will be easiest to open an account for this even although it will possibly be the only time we use it this year depending on our chosen route when we come off the tunnel (hopefully) later this year also. My intended route in is indeed as you describe and then in via the A2 according to the CAMC directions.

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Brains said:
Alex and Lesley

Another toll to be aware of is the Dartford Bridge/Tunnel
Your route down from Scotland to Abby Wood would be A1 or M1 to the M25
The clockwise around the M25, over the Dartford Bridge
You need to pay the DartCharge toll,
You can only do this on line (There are no toll booths)

Do not be tempted to take the strait line route from the end of the M1 or M11 through the middle of London, a cyclist will be faster than you would be, and I'm not joking.

If you (or your immediate family) are liable to use the Dartford crossing at least once per year then it's worth setting up an account and entering as many vehicles as you like to the account.
Otherwise you have to remember to pay each time here
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And don't forget that if the SatNag is set to avoid tolls it will send you through the LEZ and the Blackwall tunnel :cautious:
 
Alex and Lesley said:
tfl website does not give great clarity in my opinion.
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It always has been & yet they expect foreigners to negotiate it when it is incomprehensible to native speakers,badly worded & one descriptive example is different from the next one you view. It was as bad last time I looked as it was 7 years before when I first used it. then they 'delete' your account whilst " changing systems" & tell you you are no longer a registered account holder , even when you can see it ,enter it & use it, but according to them it doesn't exist & you must "open a new account" yet when you threaten them they suddenly & miraculously 'find it' ? There are't printable words to describe an absolute disgusting company masquerading as "transport for london"
 
ivorantony said:
Yes I know, but the LEZ out to the M25 is being tightened up in October to cover all diesel up to Euro6 and Euro 4 petrol,
This was proposed a few years back and already effects me, my Euro 4 diesel is 3900kg and I’m expected to pay £100 a day to drive the 200 yards inside the zone to my home,
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Us too. We are 200 yards inside the zone. However there are no cameras so lucky at the moment. Khan wants to charge everyone entering London pay a charge to enter. I think £3.50 was mooted. If that happens then they will put cameras up I'm sure.
 
dunnah01 said:
And don't forget that if the SatNag is set to avoid tolls it will send you through the LEZ and the Blackwall tunnel :cautious:
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Depends on when you last did a software update on your SatNag !

You would not navigate the roads of the UK using a 100 year old paper road map anymore than you would navigate using a SatNag that had not been updated for 100 weeks !

As an FYI

The Blackwall tunnel route is inside the ULEZ Zone.
If you want to cross the river in the east for free then the only option is the Woolwich Ferry which is in the LEZ zone.

However both Blackwall and Woolwich are prone to traffic problems, I regularly use Blackwall, and outside the rush-hours a 20 min delay is normal, one hour plus delay is also pretty regular.

In the past I have gone from Canary Wharf to Greenwich (a strait line distance of under one mile)
via the Dartford crossing, as the 40 mile road distance is faster than using the 3 road mile distance via Blackwall
 
Alex and Lesley said:
Again thanks Brains I am aware of the Dartford Crossing as well! I presumed it will be easiest to open an account for this even although it will possibly be the only time we use it this year depending on our chosen route when we come off the tunnel (hopefully) later this year also. My intended route in is indeed as you describe and then in via the A2 according to the CAMC directions.
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Its fine to open an account and only use it once or twice.

If however the account has not been used for a year they seem to put the account in 'sleep mode'
You then need to give them a kick to reopen it, you certainly need to log in to check that you have been changed correctly as gus-lopez has pointed out, they have a tendency to fine first and ask questions later

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