If I were suspicious I would say that the fact that these petitions last a year is so that they have no chance of having any effect on decisions which have already been taken.Oops Just had another look. The closing date is one year yesterday! I didn't know they lasted that long
Is this actually the case? According to the TfL web site "Note that non-GB (including Northern ireland) vehicles will need to register with TfL to be eligible for an exemption."What I do not understand is that
1) Lorries from abroad are exempt so can polute our roads.
They don't make things very clear on that site do they - they would do better to provide a series of links to the TfL site. Whatever else one might say about the scheme, at least the information on the TfL site is clear and comprehensive.
No need to send the petition to the government - they get it automaticallyI will make sure that by Feb 2008 I will send the names in to Ken Livingston and the Goverment.
This thread prompted me to look at the petitions web site again. I note that they say on the FAQs page:The petition is growing as now in 2 days it is over 109 people.
Not at all - but I am annoyed with the way the government tries to con people into thinking that the e-petition system has any chance of making them change their policies.Thank you for your reply and Im not being funny I just want to make a point.
So what are you are telling me, that I sit back and do nothing in life and let the powers that be walk all over me and if this does spread Scrap my vehicle and sit in doors because I will not have a Motorhome to part exchange.
You dont know me.
On the grounds that he couldn't be any worse than Blairown/Cameron I'm inclined to agreeAnyway whats wong with Mr Clarkson being Prime Minister. He would be a great one.
I hope you take this in the lighthearted way I mean it.
Does £100 to leave the area and another £100 to enter again (if you live in it) and a fine of up to £1000 for failure to pay within 14 days hurt enough?Quoted by BGD:
Unless the policies adopted hurt enough (me, as well as everyone else), they just ain't going to work.
The only time we go is at the end of January each year. The English Civil War Society stages an annual march to commemorate the execution of Charles I. Trouble is because he was beheaded in London the march has to be there.Would only go there if I was forced.
Update to my Petition
From the Minister of State
Rt Hon Rosie Winterton MP
Julian Brazier TD MP
House of Commons
Thank you for your letter of 29 October enclosing correspondence from your constituent Mrs Mavis Nye about the classification of motorhomes and the London low emissions zone (LLEZ)
I have noted Mrs Nye's concerns but, following the creation of the Greater London Authority. Transport for London (TFL) (under the Mayors jurisdiction) is now responsible for the day to day management of the transport services in London (with exception of the National Railway at present.)
Parliament gave the Mayor of London the powers to introduce road charging schemes in Greater London in the Greater London Authority (GLA) act 1999 which created the Greater London Authority.
The aim of the scheme is to improve air quality for those living, working or studying in London, as well as to help London and the UK move closer to achieving national and EU air quality targets.
The Government remains committed to improving air quality and the Department for Transport supports the aims of the LLEZ
Mrs Nye is correct in suggesting that in principle, motorhomes are classified as Category M1 vehicles under European Vehicle approval regulations Unfortunately some motorhome converters use the base vehicles type approval details (usually the base vehicle is a truck chassis, which is category N 1) to gain registration and thus the vehicle is recorded within DVLA as N1 category and not M1.
The records held at DVLA will determine the category of emission charges.
If Mrs Nye's registration certificate (document V5C) shows the vehicle as a Motorhome but an N1 type approval category she should return it to DVLA with a covering letter for amendment.
I hope this explains the position
These are some extracts from the original letter.
My next petition will be to stop cutting the rain forest down as we will run out of oxygen soon
In general vehicles in Class M1 are exempt from LEZ charges. However, Motor caravans (not sure about any other M1 classed vehicles) have, for the purposes of the LEZ order, been specifically included in other classes. See pp 22/23 Here.Hi, Mavis
Can you explain what the bottom paragraph means, as does it suggest that if your MH is registered M1 then it will be exempt from the LEZ
I have had on another site Interesting answer
When questioned by letter, the official response from Fiat was that particulate filters cannot be retro fitted to older vehicles. Similar responses are expected from the manufacturers of engines for other base vehicles.