Lithium battery

[Jim and Louise]

Hi all has anyone had any experience of the lithium batteries in the pic from the lithium battery shop ?
look pretty good to me the price seems ok just haven’t heard any reviews

 

[funflair]

They look like they are designed as a portable power supply rather than a fixed MH battery, other than that you can certainly see what you are getting.

 

[DavidCh]

I personally would not be comfortable with this technology from a random supplier. There is a lot to go wrong with those welded connections on multiple cells of this type and they could constitute a major fire risk. I had a Chinese electric bike once with a similar design and the battery catching fire whilst charging (fortunately not in the house) was a major drama! I would go for a type that uses lifePo4 cells which are inherently safer and have a much more reliable connection system. This type of design is used often in cars but that is major manufacturer’s with proper design and manufacturing process.

 

[Jim and Louise]

I was thinking the design was for the possibility of repair if any of the cells went pear shaped.
the Designer lives on a canal boat from what I’m reading

 

[DavidCh]

You won’t be easily replacing one of those cells.

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[bigtwin]

I would go for a type that uses lifePo4 cells which are inherently safer and have a much more reliable

They are LiFePO4.

Ian

 

[Jev88]

This might be the company Jaws ordered from????

 

[Jaws]

Yup. And have been WELL pleased
In fact I have just commissioned Gary to do some custom battery work for me
Fast, reliable, amenable.. Listens to your needs, advises where necessary and build quality is excellent

 

[Jim and Louise]

Yup. And have been WELL pleased
In fact I have just commissioned Gary to do some custom battery work for me
Fast, reliable, amenable.. Listens to your needs, advises where necessary and build quality is excellent

This is the review I’ve been looking for going to order tomorrow thanks .

 

[Jim and Louise]

Delivered today can’t wait to get this installed during this week will be able to give a review once I have used the kit for a while certainly looks a great bit of kit

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[olley]

Delivered today can’t wait to get this installed during this week will be able to give a review once I have used the kit for a while certainly looks a great bit of kit View attachment 726838

Any update on how your finding it? I live in Kesgrave only 5 miles from him and like to support local business if I can.

 

[Jaws]

Any update on how your finding it? I live in Kesgrave only 5 miles from him and like to support local business if I can.

Well I have had mine for some time now.. about 9 months

Must say it has been a real eye opener and a total game changer. It is not so much the capacity against weight thing () though that aspect is fantastic, but the speed at which they charge..... I can honestly say that we have not had any 'battery running low' issues since I did the install
I know it aint cheap but yes, I would do it again without any doubts and still stand by my previous comments and review

 

[Pausim]

I personally would not be comfortable with this technology from a random supplier. There is a lot to go wrong with those welded connections on multiple cells of this type and they could constitute a major fire risk. I had a Chinese electric bike once with a similar design and the battery catching fire whilst charging (fortunately not in the house) was a major drama! I would go for a type that uses lifePo4 cells which are inherently safer and have a much more reliable connection system. This type of design is used often in cars but that is major manufacturer’s with proper design and manufacturing process.

Multiple cylindrical LiFePO4 cells like these are seen as having several advantages and can be found in many of the top brand batteries, such as Relion. Personal choice but I would continue to choose them ahead of prismatic cells. If I needed to buy again Gary Rogers’ batteries would get serious consideration.

 

[Jim and Louise]

Any update on how your finding it? I live in Kesgrave only 5 miles from him and like to support local business if I can.

Yes I have been using the battery for a while now along with some other bits of kit namely a Victron solar controller and a Victron b2b charger.I also installed a Renogy inverter with the built in UPS which I can say works absolutely great. I really don’t think I will need to use hook up again unless it’s available as part of a park up,this definitely is a real game changer. As in other comments the speed of the charging is great
the battery felt quite heavy when I first installed it but then removing the wet batteries there wasn’t a lot of difference.
we can run our freshet 2000 air con unit without hook up and anything else we have on the van.
a 100% thumbs up from me for sure

 

[Jim and Louise]

On another note we are booked on the Plymouth/ Santander ferry on the 6th august and will be having our allotted 90days touring Spain Portugal and anywhere else we can get to so we will be able to put things to the test fully.

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[jumar]

On another note we are booked on the Plymouth/ Santander ferry on the 6th august and will be having our allotted 90days touring Spain Portugal and anywhere else we can get to so we will be able to put things to the test fully.

Providing you have a Solar Panel and a DC2DC Charger you will have no power issues whatsoever....Lithium is progress....

 

[Soycd]

we can run our freshet 2000 air con unit without hook up and anything else we have on the van.

How long can you run the aircon unit for? Thanks.

 

[DDJC]

How long can you run the aircon unit for? Thanks.

My question too.

 

[Jim and Louise]

I will do some real trials when we are away in august in Spain Portugal so that should give some real results.
we have run it here in the uk but admittedly only for short periods 20 / 30 minutes at a time without any problems

 

[Wightman]

Yes I have been using the battery for a while now along with some other bits of kit namely a Victron solar controller and a Victron b2b charger.I also installed a Renogy inverter with the built in UPS which I can say works absolutely great. I really don’t think I will need to use hook up again unless it’s available as part of a park up,this definitely is a real game changer. As in other comments the speed of the charging is great
the battery felt quite heavy when I first installed it but then removing the wet batteries there wasn’t a lot of difference.
we can run our freshet 2000 air con unit without hook up and anything else we have on the van.
a 100% thumbs up from me for sure

How much solar power do you have please? Have you still got the onboard charger to use should you need it? Many thanks

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[Jaws]

How much solar power do you have please? Have you still got the onboard charger to use should you need it? Many thanks

I know it was not directed at me but.

400w solar, and I disabled the Sargent charger and bought a stand alone LiOn charger ( 20A )

 

[Tombola]

I know it was not directed at me but.

400w solar, and I disabled the Sargent charger and bought a stand alone LiOn charger ( 20A )

I did the same with my sargent, and added the victron.
500 ish solar, 2x200ah lithium

 

[Cockers]

I did the same disabled the Sargent charger installed a Victron 30amp charger two 30amp B2B‘s and installed a relay to switch off the smart charger in the EC500 unit, a Victron MPPT solar controller, 350 watts of solar panels 2000w Victron inverter and 230amp lithium battery. Haven’t used EHU since. complete game changer.